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The Jays really need to hit this upcoming draft, trade deadline, and IFA signing period out of the park. Get a good haul for Bo and Bassitt, and make some smart picks.

It's nice that Yesavage and Nimmala have raised their stock, but we've also had guys like Bloss, Orelvis, Bonilla, and Tiedemann whose stocks have taken a small hit.

Stock up:
Nimmala
Yesavage
Stephen
Pinango
Shaw
King

Stock down:
Orelvis
Bonilla
Bloss
Tiedemann
Barriera

Stock neutral:
Roden
Kasevich
Wagner
Rojas
 
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The Jays really need to hit this upcoming draft, trade deadline, and IFA signing period out of the park. Get a good haul for Bo and Bassitt, and make some smart picks.

It's nice that Yesavage and Nimmala have raised their stock, but we've also had guys like Bloss, Orelvis, Bonilla, and Tiedemann whose stocks have taken a small hit.

Stock up:
Nimmala
Yesavage
Stephen
Pinango
Shaw
King

Stock down:
Orelvis
Bonilla
Bloss
Tiedemann
Barriera

Stock neutral:
Roden
Kasevich
Wagner
Rojas
One thing I found interesting about the Fangraphs list is that they're already really low on Orelvis (40+), Barriera (40+), and Bonilla (only mentioned in the "Other Prospects" section), so I don't see them dropping much based on their performance this year. For Tiedemann, nothing has changed since the offseason, so his rating shouldn't change either.

Bloss is likely a significant drop since they were quite high on him, and he was bad and is now done for the year.

I really hope a few of these pitchers coming off injuries can perform well and boost their stock. Those injuries just kept coming last year and wrecked the farm system. Even just a few of them coming back and looking strong could be huge.
 
The Jays really need to hit this upcoming draft, trade deadline, and IFA signing period out of the park. Get a good haul for Bo and Bassitt, and make some smart picks.

It's nice that Yesavage and Nimmala have raised their stock, but we've also had guys like Bloss, Orelvis, Bonilla, and Tiedemann whose stocks have taken a small hit.

Stock up:
Nimmala
Yesavage
Stephen
Pinango
Shaw
King

Stock down:
Orelvis
Bonilla
Bloss
Tiedemann
Barriera

Stock neutral:
Roden
Kasevich
Wagner
Rojas
This is a good summary. While Tiedemann and Barriera stock is down overall, I don't think it's moved at all since the start of the season because they've both been injured.

Stanifer and Watts-Brown have moved up.
 
Good to see nearly every acquisition Atkins made in the offseason is in "oof" territory.

Scherzer; old, can't stay healthy, has barely pitched (this one was avoidable too given how his time post Washington has went)

Santander: Awful when healthy, even more so now that he's still battling hip/shoulder issues. I won't call it over yet given guys much smarter than me like Keegan Matheson believe Santander will be better once healthy, but there's no spinning how bad the start of that deal has been.

Gimenez: Sub 600 OPS, i forgot he exists half the time. Awful, awful trade.

Hoffman: Looked fantastic in April but then proceeded to run full speed into a wall. 5+ ERA with a 1.1 WHIP suggests he's not as bad as he's looked, but still.

The tally thus far:

Scherzer: 0 WAR (15.5 million for one year)
Gimenez: 0.9 WAR (10 million yearly)
Hoffman: -0.3 WAR (11 million yearly)
Santander: -0.7 WAR (18.5 million yearly)

Put together that's a total of 0.1 WAR in 50+ games for a total of 55 million. Bang up job, Ross.
The medical suggested Hoffman wouldn’t last. Jays were so desperate they ignored it. Why Ross hasn’t been canned yet is beyond belief.
 
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latest rumblings on the draft has it being weak at the top but has a pretty consensus top 8. With us at 8 I guess that's a good thing, though getting the last guy in a tier that those above us didn't want could be a negative as well if the draft does play out that way. Still time for stuff to change obviously with the MLB draft being the most volatile of all the major sports. Kiley McDaniel doesn't think we take the HS pitcher in Seth Hernandez if he's the one who drops to us. That would then leave us with someone from the next tier. Sounds like that's on principal that HS righties are too volatile of a demographic, and doesn't sound like we're alone in that thought. He has him going 1, 2, 3 or dropping to 9+.

I have a gut feeling the Jays are going to draft Aiden Stillman overslot in the 3rd or 4th round. I know nothing about him except he's a high school lefty out of Florida ranked in that range which the Jays usually have 1 of every draft right around that area.
College players are the safe picks. That’s especially true for the Jays as high schoolers can choose to re-enter the draft and not sign.
 
The Jays really need to hit this upcoming draft, trade deadline, and IFA signing period out of the park. Get a good haul for Bo and Bassitt, and make some smart picks.

It's nice that Yesavage and Nimmala have raised their stock, but we've also had guys like Bloss, Orelvis, Bonilla, and Tiedemann whose stocks have taken a small hit.

Stock up:
Nimmala
Yesavage
Stephen
Pinango
Shaw
King

Stock down:
Orelvis
Bonilla
Bloss
Tiedemann
Barriera

Stock neutral:
Roden
Kasevich
Wagner
Rojas
I would say Orelvis is a bust at this point. Without chemical help he can’t perform.
 
Unless Eli Willits of one of the college lefties make it to our pick, I'd prefer us to cut an underslot deal with someone so we can overpay on a faller at pick 81.

Take a lower ranked, "safer" college guy with less leverage at 8 like Ike Irish, Brendan Summerhill, or Devin Taylor, who are ranked 19, 21, and 24 by MLB.com, sign them for 4.5 million, and use the saved 2.3 million to sign someone like Tate
Southisene, Landon Harmon, Johnny Slawinski, or Taitn Gray for overslot.



 
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Prior to the latest win the Jays hitters were 8th in fwar & 13th in WRC+

They really came along this last weeks. Were still in the last third with 53 homeruns (the 4 yesterday help to further advance in this category).

For May they are in Top 5 for homeruns, 2nd fwar and 2nd in wRC+. They are definitely trending in the right direction. Hopefully they can build on that (esp Bichette, Vladdy and Santander who still can be a lot better than their season numbers show)
 
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