Dr.Funk
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Blue Jays Discussion: Vladdy has signed 14 yr/500mil
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Seath The Scaleless
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Baseball's graveyard. No prospects to speak of, and the ones they get seem to bust, guys on the roster outside of like, Tovar are pretty garbage. Chase Dollander will be next on the pile.
Going through the reddit thread about their record tying start and I saw a couple people say this might be the worst team they've ever seen. That's with the White Sox being as bad as they were last year too.
Gone are the days of Rocktober, that's for damn sure.
Edit: fun fact, the Rockies have only played 2 series in division thus far. Their strength of schedule is the toughest in the division the rest of the way. It might actually get way, way worse
Seath The Scaleless
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When was the last time they developed a solid pitcher? Ubaldo? Marquez had a decent run early in his career I guess, but not a huge needle mover or anything
And seems like all their hitting prospects have either contact issues or they just swing at everything and don't hit the ball very hard
They can't develop good players to save their lives.
They used to able to develop pitchers in the short term but they seem to flame out. Ubaldo was a fringe Cy Young candidate in his prime but he started to fall off as they were looking to trade him. Marquez was at least all-star level for a bit. Kyle Freeland was really good for a bit too before he hit a wall.
Marquez probably has an argument for being the best pitcher in franchise history which is...not ideal.
I’m no fan of Mattingly as a manager but he was a legitimate superstar and probably the best hitter in MLB aside from Wade Boggs for a 5-year period in the 1980s before back problems sapped his power.
Devin Williams self-immolating on the weekend probably saved this team so real hard introspection in hindsight.
Have lost 8 of 9, are getting thoroughly outgunned (outscored 58-17 in the last 9 for those keeping track) and the pitching looks to be coming off the wave they rode to start the season. The Federal New Democrats currently have more life than this team despite nearly being wiped off the face of the earth monday night.
Shatkins bought themselves a weeks worth of goodwill with getting the Vladdy deal done. That has now been used up and they need to be fired. No, you don't get to fire Schneider and act like things are fine. You need to join him in the unemployment line.
Have lost 8 of 9, are getting thoroughly outgunned (outscored 58-17 in the last 9 for those keeping track) and the pitching looks to be coming off the wave they rode to start the season. The Federal New Democrats currently have more life than this team despite nearly being wiped off the face of the earth monday night.
Shatkins bought themselves a weeks worth of goodwill with getting the Vladdy deal done. That has now been used up and they need to be fired. No, you don't get to fire Schneider and act like things are fine. You need to join him in the unemployment line.
It was 4 years (84-87) and he was tied for 3 in wRC+ (with Boggs) behind Jack Clark and Pedro Guerrero. Adding on a 5th year in either direction moves him down to 8th (including 83) or T-9 (including 88).
His 4 year stretch is 3 points above (relative to his peers) Vlad's last 4 years and even with a slow start, Vlad's 2021-2025 is within 3 points of Don's best 5.
1-3 day on the farm.
AAA BUF got beat up. Joey Loperfido hit a dinger.
AA NH got thumped. Multi hit games for Bohrofen, Doughty, Da Brown and McAdoo.
A+ VAN did the thumping in the lone win. Put up 15 runs, no homers. Multihit games for Aroas, Coffey, Keys and Hornung. Pitching was pretty bad.
A DUN came up short too. No real standouts.
Pretty deflating day for TO sports.
AAA BUF got beat up. Joey Loperfido hit a dinger.
AA NH got thumped. Multi hit games for Bohrofen, Doughty, Da Brown and McAdoo.
A+ VAN did the thumping in the lone win. Put up 15 runs, no homers. Multihit games for Aroas, Coffey, Keys and Hornung. Pitching was pretty bad.
A DUN came up short too. No real standouts.
Pretty deflating day for TO sports.
LaP
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Personally i think Vlad gets way to much flak. He's not worth the contract but this is on Shatkins. I'm pretty positive it would have been possible to commit to vlad couple of years ago for far less money. Reminds me the Subban situation in Montreal with Bergevin.
Over the last 5 seasons (2020-25) Vlad has the 12th wrc+ in baseball. He's 7th for HRs. 6th for doubles. 7th for RBIs. 12th for OBP. 10th for average. 12th for OPS. One of the only stats where he doen't perform well is WAR and i wont start with my disdain of WAR cause we'll still be here in 30 years.
The main problem of this team and this is the case since they traded Hernandez for someone who never plays is there's nobody behind Bo and Vlad capable of hitting a beach ball and running guys in.
Over the last 5 seasons (2020-25) Vlad has the 12th wrc+ in baseball. He's 7th for HRs. 6th for doubles. 7th for RBIs. 12th for OBP. 10th for average. 12th for OPS. One of the only stats where he doen't perform well is WAR and i wont start with my disdain of WAR cause we'll still be here in 30 years.
The main problem of this team and this is the case since they traded Hernandez for someone who never plays is there's nobody behind Bo and Vlad capable of hitting a beach ball and running guys in.
Seath The Scaleless
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I don't think anybody (well, of the non-deplorables on this board) are railing on Vladdy too hard. I expect a bit more production but like...look at how they're pitching to him. No pitcher in their right mind is going to challenge Vladdy in the zone when the guys behind him are as of now, useless. Even if Bo gets on in front of him you can just play it safe. Compared to 2021 when they had absolute mashers all around him in Teoscar, Bo and Siemian
It's malpractice we're going into a third straight season where they've been unable to find him protection in the lineup. Tony Taters needs to start hitting some damn taters.
If Nimmala continues to hit this well, he will climb a lot in the prospect rankings. Not sure how his defense his but if it's solid, he might end the year top 30 in the MLB.
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Almost 300 million for that offence. How the f do Shapiro, Atkins, Schneider and Mattingly still have jobs in this org?
Better day on the farm….big team won. Good vibes.
AAA BUFF outhit their own poor pitching. Bethancourt hit a three run bomb and added a 4th ribbie. Multihit games for Joey Loperfido, Babe and organizational utility man Josh Rivera. 5xbh and 5sb’s (Berroa 2, Clase, Loperfido, Tirotta) and 7bb’s - pressure all over.
AA NH split a double dip winning and losing one 3-2. CJ Van Eyk was strong in the win, Jace Bohrofen hit a dinger. Yohendrick Pinango 2-4 with a hr and 3b in the loss.
A+ VAN brought enough with the bats. Arjun Nimmala 3-5 with two 2bs, Victor Arias 2-5. Juaron Watts-Brown mowed down 10 in 4ip.
A DUN got shutout.
AAA BUFF outhit their own poor pitching. Bethancourt hit a three run bomb and added a 4th ribbie. Multihit games for Joey Loperfido, Babe and organizational utility man Josh Rivera. 5xbh and 5sb’s (Berroa 2, Clase, Loperfido, Tirotta) and 7bb’s - pressure all over.
AA NH split a double dip winning and losing one 3-2. CJ Van Eyk was strong in the win, Jace Bohrofen hit a dinger. Yohendrick Pinango 2-4 with a hr and 3b in the loss.
A+ VAN brought enough with the bats. Arjun Nimmala 3-5 with two 2bs, Victor Arias 2-5. Juaron Watts-Brown mowed down 10 in 4ip.
A DUN got shutout.
Honestly, them firing Schneider at this point would itself be a fireable offense. If you decide in the offseason that he's the right guy for the job and then fire him because they had a shitty 10 game stretch, you don't deserve to be in a decision-making role.
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His power has continued this year and his strikeouts are down from last year too.
I'd love to know if he has a different two strike approach or something because the swinging-strike rate has actually ticked up a tiny bit (from 13.8% last year to 14% now) but he's trimmed the Ks by better than 33% (31.3% to 20.4%).
Lots of up-and-downs through the first month for the prospects, but Nimmala and Yesavage in particular have been fantastic. Bloss is coming off a couple very good starts and Orelvis seems to be slowly settling in, too.
Interesting, I didn't know that.
Last year, the prospects had an awful start. This year it's been much better. I am not worried about Orelvis. The weather sucked and he seems to be a slow starter. McAdoo has had a very slow start, and I thought he would do well.
Just saw this. Looks like Tiedemann is going to be very late in the season.
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Awesome news that some of the pitchers will be filtering back into the system. Would love an update on Macko and Rojas.
50-50 on the farm.
AAA BUF got a gem from Easton Lucas, 6 shutout innings 3bb+h and 4ks. For those keeping track for a guy just get in fan his feet wet as a SP, that’s three excellent starts, one good one, one bad one and one implosion. Offence put up 8 runs, mostly from non-roster catchers. Both Ali Sanchez and Christian Bethancourt hit their 4th homers. Sanchez is actually raking: .953 ops.
AA NH got a solid start from Rafael Sanchez, 1er over 5.2ip. Bullpen let it go in the 10th. Offence was lean, Charles McAdoo hit his first dinger.
A+ VAN got hammered. Arjun Nimmala 2-4 with his 6th bomb.
A DUN got the already mentioned stellar start from Trey Yesavage. Followed by 2 innings from Gage Stanifer no er. Manuel Beltre and Tucker Toman hit homers, Phil Clarke 2-4 presumably on a rehab outing.
50-50 on the farm.
AAA BUF got a gem from Easton Lucas, 6 shutout innings 3bb+h and 4ks. For those keeping track for a guy just get in fan his feet wet as a SP, that’s three excellent starts, one good one, one bad one and one implosion. Offence put up 8 runs, mostly from non-roster catchers. Both Ali Sanchez and Christian Bethancourt hit their 4th homers. Sanchez is actually raking: .953 ops.
AA NH got a solid start from Rafael Sanchez, 1er over 5.2ip. Bullpen let it go in the 10th. Offence was lean, Charles McAdoo hit his first dinger.
A+ VAN got hammered. Arjun Nimmala 2-4 with his 6th bomb.
A DUN got the already mentioned stellar start from Trey Yesavage. Followed by 2 innings from Gage Stanifer no er. Manuel Beltre and Tucker Toman hit homers, Phil Clarke 2-4 presumably on a rehab outing.
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