Blue Jays Discussion: Vladdy has signed 14 yr/500mil

Hopefully this gives him peace of mind to just play and produce

I never understood how a professional athlete could let contract talks - that they most likely have zero part of, that's what agents are for - affect their performance.

The same guys that can stand at home plate facing a 95 MPH heater with 45,000 people watching them and focus enough to hit it out of the park, somehow let the uncertainty of whether they're going to make $35M next year or $35.2M hold them back?

If any athlete every admitted that out loud, I'd let him walk or trade his **** immediately, because it's either complete B.S. or just an excuse.
 
Well, I'm happy he's not gonna play for the Red Sox or the Yankees and possibly torment us for another decade+, but I think this contract will age very badly, but who knows what the payrolls will be in 10+ years.

Anyway, I'm glad they did it because maybe it just frees him up to start raking, and that this franchise doesn't look like a joke not being able to sign anybody, and this might hopefully attract others to get overpaid lol.

This probably almost guarantees that Bichette goes to free agency and signs elsewhere, i don't imagine they will sign him to 200-300M deal that he probably wants.

It has to be said, this deal does not make the team better! it just doesn't make them worse.

I think they are going to work hard to get Bo done as well. I think they’ve realized no one is coming to save the franchise. You have to invest in your homegrown guys and hope that odd free agent will want to sign here.
 
I think they are going to work hard to get Bo done as well. I think they’ve realized no one is coming to save the franchise. You have to invest in your homegrown guys and hope that odd free agent will want to sign here.

Vladdy and Bo being here for the long term will attract free agents. Springer, Gausman, all signed because this was seen as a great young core. You don't have to sign the Ohtanis or Sotos of the world. FA will want to play with Vladdy and Bo, plus this is a great awesome city and the franchise is top notch.
 
Total panic move by Shatkins after getting swept this weekend.

They saw the future attendance analytic numbers dropping like flies and had mo choice but to give Vladdy what he wanted.

This was reported as being nearly done before the Mets series. A contract this big doesn’t happen in 2 days.

Unsure how or why this would be deemed a bad thing...

Fandom in 2025 is bizarre and a huge percentage of fans would rather spend 5 years trying to finish last on purpose than be a competitive team that isn’t in the top 3 favourites for a championship. It’s f***ed.
 
This was reported as being nearly done before the Mets series. A contract this big doesn’t happen in 2 days.



Fandom in 2025 is bizarre and a huge percentage of fans would rather spend 5 years trying to finish last on purpose than be a competitive team that isn’t in the top 3 favourites for a championship. It’s f***ed.

I can say this watching as a Bruins fan right now; watching a shitty team with no hopes for the not too distant future sucks. I wouldn't say i'm rooting for them to tank (i'm pretty anti-tank) but at the same time i acknowledge losing is probably the only way for them to turn the ship around given how the talent they need never goes to market.

I would much rather the Jays give Vladdy the bag and take a run at trying to compete and fail then to blow it up, get a new generation only for those guys to probably walk too. I already sat through that from 2017-2020 and then again in the early 10s even with Bautista and Encarnaion.

You never know until you try. And trying isn't something this team has done outside of the early 90s and mid 10s.
 
This was reported as being nearly done before the Mets series. A contract this big doesn’t happen in 2 days.



Fandom in 2025 is bizarre and a huge percentage of fans would rather spend 5 years trying to finish last on purpose than be a competitive team that isn’t in the top 3 favourites for a championship. It’s f***ed.
Yeah, I get that it's a necessity to some extent with an owner that won't spend much and relies on cheap young talent and cycles of draft/develop and tear down/rebuild. But if ownership is willing to spend big money to keep those young players past free agency and build around them, then tearing it all down every few years shouldn't be necessary.
 
If the Jays can re-sign Bo, their holes for next year are:

2 SP
RP

that's really it. Their LF position right now will be the same (Roden/Loperfido/Clase plus Springer/Santander). 3B is the same (with Orelvis and Barger as candidates).

For the SPs, Manoah is coming back later this year, so we will see if he looks like ST Manoah last year (which was awesome) or not. There's still money in the budget to sign a SP if need be. Bloss will hopefully figure things out as well.

For RP, there are a few interesting guys at AAA now.
 
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If the Jays can re-sign Bo, their holes for next year are:

2 SP
RP

that's really it. Their LF position right now will be the same (Roden/Loperfido/Clase plus Springer/Santander). 3B is the same (with Orelvis and Barger as candidates).

For the SPs, Manoah is coming back later this year, so we will see if he looks like ST Manoah last year (which was awesome) or not. There's still money in the budget to sign a SP if need be. Bloss will hopefully figure things out as well.

For RP, there are a few interesting guys at AAA now.


I hope Manoah can resurrect his career, but he is more likely to end up being a relief pitcher.
 
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If the Jays can re-sign Bo, their holes for next year are:

2 SP
RP

that's really it. Their LF position right now will be the same (Roden/Loperfido/Clase plus Springer/Santander). 3B is the same (with Orelvis and Barger as candidates).

For the SPs, Manoah is coming back later this year, so we will see if he looks like ST Manoah last year (which was awesome) or not. There's still money in the budget to sign a SP if need be. Bloss will hopefully figure things out as well.

For RP, there are a few interesting guys at AAA now.
Hopefully Tiedemann and Macko can have some kind of impact on the rotation, too.
 
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I hope Manoah can resurrect his career, but he is more likely to end up being a relief pitcher.
But the pending free agents in the rotation make a lot of money. So there will be money to sign one or two FA SP.

I am cautiously optimistic on Manoah because he showed good signs after his terrible year (before he lost the ability to throw his slider completely as his elbow went). He had one terrible year then came back looking good (again, his ST arsenal looked amazing, but a couple of starts into his season, it became apparent that things weren't good from a health POV).
 
Hopefully Tiedemann and Macko can have some kind of impact on the rotation, too.
My point was more about the idea that the "promise" that the FO made about being able to fill holes from within appears to be close to being possible (we have more prospects than spots at each position, so not only can the Jays have competition, but they could force guys into lesser roles or become trade chips).
 
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If the Jays can re-sign Bo, their holes for next year are:

2 SP
RP

that's really it. Their LF position right now will be the same (Roden/Loperfido/Clase plus Springer/Santander). 3B is the same (with Orelvis and Barger as candidates).

For the SPs, Manoah is coming back later this year, so we will see if he looks like ST Manoah last year (which was awesome) or not. There's still money in the budget to sign a SP if need be. Bloss will hopefully figure things out as well.

For RP, there are a few interesting guys at AAA now.
IMO, they still need to add a bat unless Roden/Barber/Orelevis add a huge thump to the line up.
 
My point was more about the idea that the "promise" that the FO made about being able to fill holes from within appears to be close to being possible (we have more prospects than spots at each position, so not only can the Jays have competition, but they could force guys into lesser roles or become trade chips).
Oh yeah, I agree with you. I just think Tiedemann and Macko could be a big part of that as well, either late this season or by being ready in 2026.
 
I think they are going to work hard to get Bo done as well. I think they’ve realized no one is coming to save the franchise. You have to invest in your homegrown guys and hope that odd free agent will want to sign here.
That is true, plus Bo has already been exposed to traveling over the border for years, so it's likely not a big deal to him. Let's hope they don't play games with him and start negotiating now that they're done with junior.
 
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Bo was pretty open on his desire to play with Vlad for the entirety of their careers in the past.

While that doesn't guarantee much of anything, it's at the least a feather in the cap for the team when all parties come to the table.

Could be he doesn't want to stay, could be it's as simple as Vlad's deal where you just give him a number he feels is fair and signs with no questions. Only time will tell since you don't really have an idea of what he's thinking.
 
It wouldn’t be so bad if it wasn’t such a long contract. Signing someone for the same money well into 40 years of age is insane. How do these players justify the cost being the same at 27 and at 40.
 

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