Value of: Vitaly Kravtsov to Montreal

[HuGort]

That gets you Rooney, not Kravtsov.

Don't really want neither. Trade him somewhere else

 

[Captain Mountain]

With Kravtsov seemingly wanting back in NA, what would interest NYR? I thought about adding Patrik Nemeth so they can free some cap for next year as he seems to be on the outside looking in with the young guys doing well.

If this is for Montreal, its worth noting that the rumours around the deadline were that Gorton has zero interest in acquiring Kravstov.

 

[TGWL]

Rangers are going to run into some cap trouble here. We clearly need a 2c and want to re-sign Copp. I don't want Copp being that 2c and prefer him on the wing. That doesn't leave a lot of wiggle room with cap space. We added pieces like Coppy, Vatrano and Motte and obviously can't go into next season with all of them. Krav will be cheap and might find himself getting a chance before being traded.

 

[cwede]

Kravtsov, Georgiev, Hajek, Aaltonen for Mysak, Tuch Struble, J.Allen

 

[Trxjw]

We moved Lias Anderson for #60 and took Will Cuylle, who the Rangers (allegedly) had ranked around 30. So if a team with an early / mid 2nd is interested in Kravtsov and a center the Rangers like is on the board, I could see them making that trade.

I really doubt a team is going to offer up a pick for him this close to the draft without seeing how the board shakes out first. Giving up a high 2nd only to watch your 15th ranked player slide into the 2nd round would be painful.

 

[Langdon Alger]

Any interest in Mysak as part of the deal?

Not sure anyone would be interested in your sack.

 

[Habs Halifax]

If this is for Montreal, its worth noting that the rumours around the deadline were that Gorton has zero interest in acquiring Kravstov.

What's the credibility to those rumors? Curious.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Kravtsov, Georgiev, Hajek, Aaltonen for Mysak, Tuch Struble, J.Allen

A lot of pieces but from 1st reaction, I think this might be fair value to both sides.

 

[GAGLine]

Kravtsov, Georgiev, Hajek, Aaltonen for Mysak, Tuch Struble, J.Allen

Make no sense for the Rangers. Allen has a 2.875 mil cap hit. We won't be giving Georgiev his 2.65 mil QO because we can't afford it.

 

[Grand Admiral Thrawn]

Norlinder or Struble for Kravtsov

 

[GAGLine]

Norlinder or Struble for Kravtsov

We don't need defensive prospects.

 

[TGWL]

Kravtsov, Georgiev, Hajek, Aaltonen for Mysak, Tuch Struble, J.Allen

There's no scenario where we take almost 3 million back for a backup goalie, while going for a prospect area we are strongest at.

 

[Smitty426]

Hes going to suit up as a NYR next year.

Had he been smart in October he'd have spent the majority of the year with the pro club.

With the team needing capable and inexpensive players due to the raises that Mika and Fox are getting, this is a situation where the player and team fit.

Everything else, water under the bridge.

I dont think so. Drury messed with him in Hartford as well. I agree had he just taken his assignemnt he'd been playing rn. They are going to try and trade him in the summer but not get real value

 

[pld459666]

I dont think so. Drury messed with him in Hartford as well. I agree had he just taken his assignemnt he'd been playing rn. They are going to try and trade him in the summer but not get real value

Drury has been in contact with VK and his reps all throughout the season.

He's got a spot on the top 2 RW positions with either CK and MZ OR AP and AC

he's got an opportunity to play for a team that is vying for the right to play for the Stanley Cup.

A young and up and coming team, proving right now they are on the verge of some special things in the coming years

A spot in the top 6 his for the taking.

His reps would be foolish to insist on a trade

 

[bernmeister]

package deal:
part 1
LaF + NY 2023 + 2024 2nds
for
Barron + MON 2022 2nd + 2023 + 2024 1sts [top 7 protected]

part 2
Geo rfa + Nemeth 2 x 2.5 per [ballpark value cancel out]
for conditional 7th

Habs get Suzuki + Wright + LaF
+ netminder pay on installment.

Rangers get futures, mostly picks = no cap add, clear cap space,
If we can move Trouba earlier, fine, if not Schneider already there, add Barron
roll RD w/Schneider-Barron - Nils L
play Fox at LD, w/KAM.
Lindgren until forced to move him for cap,

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Then NY plays Krav, ups his value, decides to keep or deal, Habs have handshake they get dibs for first offer if put on the market.

Idea is Habs pay full value now on LaF, and we see about Krav

 

[bernmeister]

I dont think so. Drury messed with him in Hartford as well. I agree had he just taken his assignemnt he'd been playing rn. They are going to try and trade him in the summer but not get real value

He should not be given away for cheap.
We need more scoring.
Need to repurpose cap by moving Trouba or otherwise
add Vatrano
replace Strome w/Krav to start, Othman when ready prob following season after year in the A, maybe half yr

also Cuylie properly thought of as tough customer but also showing scoring
this is how NY needs to roll

 

[bernmeister]

Drury has been in contact with VK and his reps all throughout the season.

He's got a spot on the top 2 RW positions with either CK and MZ OR AP and AC

he's got an opportunity to play for a team that is vying for the right to play for the Stanley Cup.

A young and up and coming team, proving right now they are on the verge of some special things in the coming years

A spot in the top 6 his for the taking.

His reps would be foolish to insist on a trade

Agree. Prob has been w/Drury + coaches playing vets and not giving him quality top line mins like was done for Lias Andersson.

VK will accept assignment w/varsity, work hard to earn big $$ when his rfa is up
He is not stupid
? is if Drury will stay relatively smart or be arrogant and deal him for less, which he has resisted up til now. howev, if he was smart, he would have dumped Strome 2 yrs ago + his mins would have gone to Chytil, Krav + Barron.

 

[Lays]

I imagine he doesn’t like Gorton

why? Gorton drafted him and treated him pretty well.

It’s Drury that has a problem with Kravtsov. Drury was AGM of NYR and the GM of the Wolf Pack. Kravtsov acted like he was too good to play in the AHL when he was initially sent down with Chytil at the start of the season. Chytil shut his mouth and put up 9 points in 9 games down there and was called up once it was clear that he was too good for the AHL. Kravtsov sulked and stopped trying, went back to Russia, and sometime in between all of that Drury chewed him out in front of his teammates multiple times for his lack of effort

Drury will end up trading Kravtsov this summer imo. Doesn’t fit what he’s been building so far and won’t get an opportunity with our wing depth. I would like Kravtsov to at least play a few games for us under Galalnt to see what he really has. Vitaly looked better than Laf and Kakko in his short stint with NYR last season and has only improved. Plus he’s a tremendous playoff performer with a few KHL records

 

[Habs Halifax]

Rangers might laugh at this but this is as far as I go and I suspect other teams will not offer what the Rangers are looking for either.

* Poehling
* Habs 2022 3rd rounder (65th pick)
for
* Kravtsov.

 

[GAGLine]

Rangers might laugh at this but this is as far as I go and I suspect other teams will not offer what the Rangers are looking for either.

* Poehling
* Habs 2022 3rd rounder (65th pick) or J Olofsson (close to ready NHL prospect)
for
* Kravtsov.

If other teams aren't willing to pay more for him, why would we trade him? We are under no pressure to do so.

If that's the best offer the Rangers get, they'll just sign him, bring him to camp and hope he can increase his value or becomes a long term piece for the Rangers. If he refuses to sign, he can sit out or go back to Russia. If he signs and doesn't play well, then so be it. I'd rather he completely busts and we get nothing for him than risk giving another team a good young player for a crap return.

 

[Habs Halifax]

If other teams aren't willing to pay more for him, why would we trade him? We are under no pressure to do so.

If that's the best offer the Rangers get, they'll just sign him, bring him to camp and hope he can increase his value or becomes a long term piece for the Rangers. If he refuses to sign, he can sit out or go back to Russia. If he signs and doesn't play well, then so be it. I'd rather he completely busts and we get nothing for him than risk giving another team a good young player for a crap return.

That's up to you. I'm not that desperate to trade for Kravtsov. It's just basically what I would offer and I'm not offended if you say no.

Kravtsov can increase if trade value by coming to camp or he can decrease it. He has yet to show trust in the less time and space NHL game. Solid offensive talent but we have seen this before so it's hard to tell if he figures it out or he has more stall years.

I see him as late 1st round value at this point in time. I think both Poehling and Kravtsov can use a new fresh start. I'm adding the early 3rd and some Habs fans even say no to trading Poehling for Kravtsov straight up.

 

[TGWL]

package deal:
part 1
LaF + NY 2023 + 2024 2nds
for
Barron + MON 2022 2nd + 2023 + 2024 1sts [top 7 protected]

part 2
Geo rfa + Nemeth 2 x 2.5 per [ballpark value cancel out]
for conditional 7th

Habs get Suzuki + Wright + LaF
+ netminder pay on installment.

Rangers get futures, mostly picks = no cap add, clear cap space,
If we can move Trouba earlier, fine, if not Schneider already there, add Barron
roll RD w/Schneider-Barron - Nils L
play Fox at LD, w/KAM.
Lindgren until forced to move him for cap,

===============
Then NY plays Krav, ups his value, decides to keep or deal, Habs have handshake they get dibs for first offer if put on the market.

Idea is Habs pay full value now on LaF, and we see about Krav

Why are we trading Laf and taking back a defensemen that wouldn't play top 4 right now? How does that make us better? Forget the 2 protected first. We have prospects. We need to players that make us better right now.

Rangers might laugh at this but this is as far as I go and I suspect other teams will not offer what the Rangers are looking for either.

* Poehling
* Habs 2022 3rd rounder (65th pick)
for
* Kravtsov.

We want nothing to do with Poehling. There's no placement for him on the team. So it's basically a 3rd for Krav.

 

[Habs Halifax]

We want nothing to do with Poehling. There's no placement for him on the team. So it's basically a 3rd for Krav.

It will be interesting to see what Krav gets in a trade if/when it happens. I don't think his value is as high as you think it is. Could be wrong yeah but it's not tracking well. You don't like Poehling clearly but I bet you Krav has a hard time putting up the same numbers as Poehling in the AHL/NHL next season. Bookmark it

Are you looking for a NHL player in return or prospects/picks?

 

[cheech70]

after playoffs we have 1RW and 2RW vacancies..what are we talking about?

 

[TGWL]

It will be interesting to see what Krav gets in a trade if/when it happens. I don't think his value is as high as you think it is. Could be wrong yeah but it's not tracking well. You don't like Poehling clearly but I bet you Krav has a hard time putting up the same numbers as Poehling in the AHL/NHL next season. Bookmark it

Are you looking for a NHL player in return or prospects/picks?

I'm not calling his value high. But the deal involving Poehling is worthless to us. We have nowhere to put him and no use for him. Can Krav bring more than a 3rd round pick? Maybe.

If the prospect doesn't have top 6c potential (whether he reaches it or not) we don't really need the prospect. We have a bunch of wingers and D prospects.