Lehner will get paid, but is not counting against the cap

[LOFIN]

So Lehner is basically inactive/suspended and thus Vegas doesn't have to LTIR him, but Lehner still somehow gets his money?

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[a mangy Meowth]

Well isn't that nice for them

 

[ucanthanzalthetruth]

serious answer: I think Vegas obviously get perks but I don't really see it here? Players are required under the CBA to take physicals. By missing his, Lehner violated the CBA. If anything this is just a win for Lehner who still gets paid despite Vegas having a strong argument to terminate his contract? Or rather a win for his numerous creditors.

joke answer: League also announces Vegas gets Ottawa's 2027 1st round pick

 

[tfwnogf]

you're just mad your team didn't think of it first

 

[oconnor9sean]

I'm a bit too out of the loop to fully know what's truly up.

I was under the assumption that Lehner was hurt to the point of never playing again. There are plenty of guys that fall in that camp, but they all still get paid. What was to gain for him by not taking the physical? Mental health reasons?

 

[LOFIN]

serious answer: I think Vegas obviously get perks but I don't really see it here? Players are required under the CBA to take physicals. By missing his, Lehner violated the CBA. If anything this is just a win for Lehner who still gets paid despite Vegas having a strong argument to terminate his contract? Or rather a win for his numerous creditors.

Because if this was allowed, there would be no bad contracts in the league because every team would just tell their bad, overpaid players to stay the f*** away, shut up and collect their pay cheque. And the majority of players would probably be fine with it.

 

[trick9]

Win-win.

Shady as hell though.

 

[Blackjack]

Remembering when NJ lost a 1st round pick for signing Kovalchuk to a contract that conformed to the CBA.

 

[Romang67]

Feels pretty obvious that they weren't going to have to have an injured snake farmer, or whatever Lehner is up to these days, count toward the salary cap.

 

[AfroThunder396]

The league has just announced that in addition to Lehner's contract not counting against the cap, New Jersey must now forfeit a 1st, a 3rd, and has been fined $3 million.

 

[Bizz]

Vegas cheats because they are allowed to. Any other team would have been told tough shit and forced to deal with it.

 

[theVladiator]

Seems like a gift to Lehner, not to Vegas.

 

[HanSolo]

So Lehner is basically inactive/suspended and thus Vegas doesn't have to LTIR him, but Lehner still somehow gets his money?

You don't think Vegas would've just preferred to terminate his contract? The dude is on the run from creditors after the snake farm debacle (and other financial mistakes/irresponsibility), I think the VGK and NHL are perfectly reasonable I'm concluding that Lehner will be making no attempts to contribute to the hockey club in any fashion and the result is he's still going to get paid millions of dollars for doing nothing and violating the terms of his contract. Granted, Vegas knew he wouldn't appear, but the point remains.

It's a little different with LTIRetired guys because officially they're presented as guys who could play per the terms of their contract but for their long term injury. Lehner didn't bother to appear for a physical to check off the formalities needed to retain that status. The real "benefit" would be if Vegas was allowed to terminate the contract for breach of the player contract. If he had appeared for the physical, he'd probably fail it, and he'd still be on LTIR with the salary earnings not counting towards the cap. If anything this helps Lehner more than it helps the Knights.

 

[TheDawnOfANewTage]

I'm a bit too out of the loop to fully know what's truly up.

I was under the assumption that Lehner was hurt to the point of never playing again. There are plenty of guys that fall in that camp, but they all still get paid. What was to gain for him by not taking the physical? Mental health reasons?

To my understanding there was just miscommunication on whether he had to do it or not. He coulda also assumed, but I think I heard that it was just 3-way miscommunication, which would not shock me with the parties involved. Now Lehner technically breached his contract, but instead of making it all legally contentious or a drawn out conflict they just did this instead.

So I get the motivation, but like- does the CBA allow this? The other owners? How does that work? Seems fine in a one-off, but sets a really weird precedent.

 

[I Hate Blake Coleman]

Is there a team that makes HF whine more than the VGK?

 

[Killer Orcas]

Vegas cheats because they are allowed to. Any other team would have been told tough shit and forced to deal with it.

Everyone knows this but reason everyone is upset is why do they get to?

 

[TheNewEra]

Remembering when NJ lost a 1st round pick for signing Kovalchuk to a contract that confirmed to the CBA.

remembering when ottawa lost a first, after the league said they wouldnt because vegas cried about it

 

[VaCaps Fan]

GMGM is a crafty one…

 

[Bizz]

Everyone knows this but reason everyone is upset is why do they get to?

Because Bettman doesn't want another desert based team to fail.

 

[ManofSteel55]

I'm a bit too out of the loop to fully know what's truly up.

I was under the assumption that Lehner was hurt to the point of never playing again. There are plenty of guys that fall in that camp, but they all still get paid. What was to gain for him by not taking the physical? Mental health reasons?

I'm not sure if anyone knows why Lehner didn't take the physical. I'm sure if it was just him being stubborn about it, they would have simply terminated without any push back, so mental health reasons is probably the best guess.

 

[Team_Spirit]

Must be nice to be the golden child.

Price should skip medicals, Habs have been handicapped 10.5M for 4 years now

 

[tsujimoto74]

Apparently the rules only apply to 31 teams. At what point do the rest of the league’s owners get sick of this horseshit?

 

[Breakers]

Not surprising the knights got this advantage

 

[Killer Orcas]

Because Bettman doesn't want another desert based team to fail.

You might be right but the blatant actions the league let's them get away with are ridiculous. I know the owners don't really care as all of them are about the bottom line and he makes them money. However the fans get screwed. Oh well rant over.

 

[tsujimoto74]

Feels pretty obvious that they weren't going to have to have an injured snake farmer, or whatever Lehner is up to these days, count toward the salary cap.

Pretty sure every other team would’ve had to put him on LTIR. But apparently Vegas is allowed to somehow pay him but not have any salary cap consequences whatsoever for…reasons????