Vegas gets a 48 hour window before the expansion draft to sign players
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Prairie Habs
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They need to stop adding things so GMs can prepare themselves. I think Bob McKenzie retweeted something like this before but I didn't think they confirmed it
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Why? Most of the good ones will be protected, they won't get any extra leverage, Las Vegas can't sign other teams RFA's unless they're unprotected in which case Vegas can talk to them agree to a contract and then take them and sign that contract.
Same for UFA's. If a team wants to protect a pending UFA, Vegas can talk to them all they want they can't take the players UFA rights if they're protected.
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Hasn't every expansion team been able to sign players before the expansion draft? I know the Preds had a player or two under contract already before their draft (Marian Cisar for sure).
I don't think it's going to be a huge deal, but you never know.
I don't think it's going to be a huge deal, but you never know.
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It makes a lot of sense for Vegas
1. All unprotected UFA's and RFA's can sign with Vegas 48 hours before the draft. This way they know exactly who wants to play for them. Those that don't, they wont be wasting a pick on.
So lets say Oilers do not protect Russell.
a) he signs with vegas and Oilers can no longer lose any more players.
b) Vegas wants to sign him but Russell does not want to sign in Vegas, Vegas now chooses someone different from the oilers.
c) Oilers can resign Russell after draft but before everyone else can talk to him.
d) Oilers let Russell walk or he does not want to sign with oilers
I think that makes it a good deal for Vegas
1. All unprotected UFA's and RFA's can sign with Vegas 48 hours before the draft. This way they know exactly who wants to play for them. Those that don't, they wont be wasting a pick on.
So lets say Oilers do not protect Russell.
a) he signs with vegas and Oilers can no longer lose any more players.
b) Vegas wants to sign him but Russell does not want to sign in Vegas, Vegas now chooses someone different from the oilers.
c) Oilers can resign Russell after draft but before everyone else can talk to him.
d) Oilers let Russell walk or he does not want to sign with oilers
I think that makes it a good deal for Vegas
The Cheat
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No top or even middle end UFAs are going to sign with an expansion team. As much as the rules are better than they used to be this team is still going to be brutal their first couple of years.
me2
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Maybe top, but middle tier free agents I could see taking a little extra cash to play for LV
me2
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For sure. A million or so extra for guys in 3-5m range is a big enticement. They also get to be key players at the start of a new team, nice to be wanted and it might pay off for them after their playing careers are over if they move into off ice roles with the vegas team.
One thing in Vegas' favour is they can negotiate a deal with a UFA but not sign them allowing them to take an RFA and circle back for the UFA signing later.
Spurgeon
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Vegas sure is getting a stacked team compared to the scraps the Wild and Jackets had to start with.
For now at least, no state income tax for Vegas.
Florida, Dallas, Nashville, Tampa, and Vegas now.
Depending on the election results, a California player will pay 10-13% more for their home games
Than those teams.
Does give a little more buying power.
Especially for high paid players
Florida, Dallas, Nashville, Tampa, and Vegas now.
Depending on the election results, a California player will pay 10-13% more for their home games
Than those teams.
Does give a little more buying power.
Especially for high paid players
Should add that if they sign a UFA/RFA in that period, they give up the right to select a player from that team.
missingjibbsclub
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I don't think LV is looking to spend more on players to entice them to come.
That is the worst possible way to start the franchise off - Behind the cap and contract 8-ball
That is the worst possible way to start the franchise off - Behind the cap and contract 8-ball
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cheswick
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How did they get any leverage? If they're left unprotected LV could just take them in the draft. If they're protected LV can't talk to them.
This really isn't much of a benefit to LV. If anything I think it's more of a benefit to current teams. They could potentially get a pending UFA taken by LV that they would be losing anyway, and save them from losing a roster player.
I think you may be right after reading it a second and third time. I was under the impression that Vegas was going to be able to talk to even protected RFA's at this time if they were still unsigned.
That wouldve been a huge bonus. The way you stated it, it does sound like a good thing for other teams.
Say Ottawa cant reach an agreement with Zack Smith and plan on letting him go. Vegas signs him instead of picking up Methot. Thats probably a better scenario for Ottawa than vice-versa.
tsanuri
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In the case you mentioned the Oilers would likely still lose another player.
They won't need to use a pick to grab a UFA. They would just sign after they became a FA.
As to those saying they need to stop changing the rules.
I'm sure GM's have known everything it's just the fans finding out piecemeal. And there has already been a time for teams to talk to pending UFA's so that is really nothing new. They just get a little earlier since they are trying to build a team from scratch.
