Vegan tries to prove vegans aren't weak, dies climbing Everest

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Vegans are **** all over non-stop by the media, industry, as well as everyday folk like you. Sort of like homosexual people were.

When you're constantly told you can't do something and that you're weak and you're mocked for your choices, there's some pride in proving everyone wrong. Sort of like how homosexuals are very proud to get married, vegans are very proud to be elite athletes.

Perhaps instead of mocking people who are trying to improve the world for both humans and animals, you should take a look at your own life and what you could do to make the world a better place for all those living beings you share it with.
you just equated veganism with being gay, take your meds TJ:laugh:
 

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Vegans are **** all over non-stop by the media, industry, as well as everyday folk like you. Sort of like homosexual people were.

When you're constantly told you can't do something and that you're weak and you're mocked for your choices, there's some pride in proving everyone wrong. Sort of like how homosexuals are very proud to get married, vegans are very proud to be elite athletes.

Perhaps instead of mocking people who are trying to improve the world for both humans and animals, you should take a look at your own life and what you could do to make the world a better place for all those living beings you share it with.
 

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Can we all agree that people who brag about wrapping deep fried chicken with bacon are just as bad as people who brag about eating nothing but kale massaged with avocado? They're all obnoxious dicks, and I would say they're both as prevalent.
 

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CH simply said the two qualities are comparable aka having features in common with each other, which in this case is the lesser amount of respect given to both vegans and homosexuals by some people because of this quality they have, and then because of this some people having the need to prove in different ways that these misconceptions about them are indeed just misconceptions.

But like so often people don't react that well to comparisons like this because their views about them are often just totally different. Some might understand and accept them when explained in a certain way, but I feel that based on my experience more often than not using all the reasonable arguments for veganism help more to have slightly smoother and more focused discussions about this topic.
 

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Vegans are **** all over non-stop by the media, industry, as well as everyday folk like you. Sort of like homosexual people were.

When you're constantly told you can't do something and that you're weak and you're mocked for your choices, there's some pride in proving everyone wrong. Sort of like how homosexuals are very proud to get married, vegans are very proud to be elite athletes.

Perhaps instead of mocking people who are trying to improve the world for both humans and animals, you should take a look at your own life and what you could do to make the world a better place for all those living beings you share it with.

It's a two way street, though, at least where it pertains to vegans.

Sure, they get a bad rap from meat eaters, but there's also a ton of vitriol from their side towards the rest of us, about how we're all "murderers" for eating meat, or how we're "killing the planet", yadda yadda yadda. :help:

Such antics don't help the situation, but rather make things worse for all.
 

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CH simply said the two qualities are comparable aka having features in common with each other, which in this case is the lesser amount of respect given to both vegans and homosexuals by some people because of this quality they have, and then because of this some people having the need to prove in different ways that these misconceptions about them are indeed just misconceptions.

But like so often people don't react that well to comparisons like this because their views about them are often just totally different. Some might understand and accept them when explained in a certain way, but I feel that based on my experience more often than not using all the reasonable arguments for veganism help more to have slightly smoother and more focused discussions about this topic.

No he didn't :laugh: he compared years of actual systematic discriminatory legislation by the establishment saying they literally cannot do something by law, to people's perception of vegans. He compared gay marriage to vegans being professional athletes.

Homosexuals did not simply have a "lesser amount of respect" - they were literally criminalised and in some places still are.
 

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God this hate for vegans is as out of control and childish as the hate for justin bieber was. Speaking of which, its good to see JB back on track.

Now as for this woman, how can you not admire her? The heart it takes for a foreigner to make that climb is unbelievable. I wouldn't make it up, I can tell you that.

I don't see much of a hate for vegans. I do see an annoyance at how a good portion of them act about being a vegan.
 

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I don't see how veganism would stop you from reaching the top of Mt Everest. Now if someone did on that on a ketosis diet, that would be impressive.
 

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The idea of all those dead bodies lying there for years in full view on Everest has haunted me all week since I first heard this story.
 

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It's always been that way.

You never knew the bodies mostly stay where they are, on Everest?

I honestly never really thought about it. Beyond it being the highest mountain and Sir Edmund Hilary it's not a subject I've read/know a lot about. I always assumed anyone who dies whose body is retrievable and hadn't fallen to their death was simply loaded on a sled of some sort and shuffled down the mountain.

I mean, people had to step over that "Green Boots" guy for twenty years. Freaky.
 

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I honestly never really thought about it. Beyond it being the highest mountain and Sir Edmund Hilary it's not a subject I've read/know a lot about. I always assumed anyone who dies whose body is retrievable and hadn't fallen to their death was simply loaded on a sled of some sort and shuffled down the mountain.

I mean, people had to step over that "Green Boots" guy for twenty years. Freaky.

I think there was a Canadian woman a few years back who they managed to retrieve....either by request, or some other reason. I'm sure there were others that were similarly retrieved.

I'm guessing most deaths occur at or near the summit, so retrieval is hard enough when you can only stay up there for so long. You need to get out of the "death zone" in a hurry, so burdening yourself with someone else's body can itself be a death warrant.
 

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No he didn't :laugh: he compared years of actual systematic discriminatory legislation by the establishment saying they literally cannot do something by law, to people's perception of vegans. He compared gay marriage to vegans being professional athletes.

Homosexuals did not simply have a "lesser amount of respect" - they were literally criminalised and in some places still are.
Huh. Thought that it would have been obvious to him also that homosexuals are still being put to jail, tortured and/or killed for simply that, unlike vegans from everything I know, and it's more difficult in many different ways in many places.

I guess I misunderstood what he was trying to say and thought he was comparing things that made some sense to me also.
It's a two way street, though, at least where it pertains to vegans.

Sure, they get a bad rap from meat eaters, but there's also a ton of vitriol from their side towards the rest of us, about how we're all "murderers" for eating meat, or how we're "killing the planet", yadda yadda yadda. :help:

Such antics don't help the situation, but rather make things worse for all.
Agreed. I've mentioned that the quick and harsher judging route instead of evaluating these behaviors while trying to understand at the same time how the majority of people have grown up learning these things and therefore think and believe different things in different ways of what I touched on in another thread could be the less efficient way to go on about these things

A portion of vegans have and are still doing the stereotypical aggressive "meat is murder" and other rants out of the frustration they get from the majority of people around them doing the things they view in a completely different light, things that society teaches to be justified and reasonable, not viewing it as a big deal worth paying much attention to, making jokes about it, possibly getting defensive or attacking vegans, which is often just a response after they've felt they are being attacked by vegans. And some vegans have fueled the fire to the point that sometimes even when the intention of other vegans was simply to evaluate or analyze these behaviors in a rational or logical approach others may feel attacked and just other negative feelings in general towards these people.

The reactions are understandable, but indeed the whole thing just feels like one big vicious cycle and it's not helping anyone (outside of possibly the people from both sides who can make a profit from it) so many vegans view a slightly different approach is more beneficial in most ways no matter how frustrated they are with how slow the whole "process" feels like and actually is in reality. Just makes so many of them want to try everything to push, from their perspective, things forward more quickly and sometimes with too much "force".
 

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The idea of all those dead bodies lying there for years in full view on Everest has haunted me all week since I first heard this story.

"Green Boots Cave"...I agree, very unsettling. Worse are the climbers who don't stop to offer assistance to other climbers in distress because it might ruin their attempt at the summit.
 

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