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Value of: Vasili Podkolzin

He's the classic regular season headache, postseason dream.
This was obvious with him the year before he came over to NA too
 
A very dumb trade by the Canucks, from the moment it was made.

Not only did we trade away a potential top 6 utility player, signed for two years at 1mil, for a lowly 4th. We also traded him to what was at the time, barring this disaster of a season, our biggest competition within the division.

There was no reason to move on this trade as quickly as we did. I figured it would sting us at some point, I just hope it won't be that badly. If he ends up a 20g-20a line driver, that will be painful.
 
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Luck 6 said:
A very dumb trade by the Canucks, from the moment it was made.

Not only did we trade away a potential top 6 utility player, signed for two years at 1mil, for a lowly 4th. We also traded him to what was at the time, barring this disaster of a season, our biggest competition within the division.

There was no reason to move on this trade as quickly as we did. I figured it would sting us at some point, I just hope it won't be that badly. If he ends up a 20g-20a line driver, that will be painful.
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You can thank Tocchet for that. Samemas for Kuzy. Tocchet completely laid an egg this year then he quit and left once he talked to Hughes about his departure.
 
jackjohnson said:
You can thank Tocchet for that. Samemas for Kuzy. Tocchet completely laid an egg this year then he quit and left once he talked to Hughes about his departure.
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I agree. We shaped a team around a coach who didn’t want to be here. I think Kuz could have been successful too, we just didn’t coach him right. THAT isn’t a slight on Toc, he’s allowed to have his own preferences. It just annoying that he projects them then quits when the team is shaped how he wants.
 
OKR said:
He is worth more for Canucks than other teams in the league imo, don’t see Canucks getting anything worth moving him for.
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Yep, he’s not an NHLer but the Nucks can keep him cheap if a warm body is needed.
 
jackjohnson said:
You can thank Tocchet for that. Samemas for Kuzy. Tocchet completely laid an egg this year then he quit and left once he talked to Hughes about his departure.
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Yeah , Toch is the issue about Quinn being lazy… go figure….
 
He's the NHL version of Puljujarvi. Almost never hurts to have him on the ice. Probably won't score but he'll make things hard for the other team.
 
Luck 6 said:
I agree. We shaped a team around a coach who didn’t want to be here. I think Kuz could have been successful too, we just didn’t coach him right. THAT isn’t a slight on Toc, he’s allowed to have his own preferences. It just annoying that he projects them then quits when the team is shaped how he wants.
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We lost Kuzmenko, Podkolzin and many more because of Toch. Then Tocchet packs up and leaves
 
I think he’s developing really nicely. Probably not what you hoped at 10OA, but man is he going to be a big part of the oilers for a while
 
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syz said:
He's the NHL version of Puljujarvi. Almost never hurts to have him on the ice. Probably won't score but he'll make things hard for the other team.
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This makes no sense. Podkolzin has fit in very nicely for the oilers as a role player. Can’t say the same for puljujarvi
 
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KaprizovSaveUs said:
I think he’s developing really nicely. Probably not what you hoped at 10OA, but man is he going to be a big part of the oilers for a while
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He played 82 games, most of them with Draisaitl, and still only managed 8 goals. I like who he is now and I hope for a little more, but I don't expect much more.

lawrence said:
This makes no sense. Podkolzin has fit in very nicely for the oilers as a role player. Can’t say the same for puljujarvi
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It was easy to miss because it was sandwiched in between hip-injury ruined seasons, but Puljujarvi was at one point a terrific role player for the Oilers. He got ridiculous on ice results. If Podkolzin can do that, and more consistently this time, the Oilers would be thrilled.
 
majormajor said:
He played 82 games, most of them with Draisaitl, and still only managed 8 goals. I like who he is now and I hope for a little more, but I don't expect much more.



It was easy to miss because it was sandwiched in between hip-injury ruined seasons, but Puljujarvi was at one point a terrific role player for the Oilers. He got ridiculous on ice results. If Podkolzin can do that, and more consistently this time, the Oilers would be thrilled.
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He has 6 points in 8 playoff games playing 4th line minutes with Janmark and Arvidsson. Hes +5 while being on the ice for 6 goals for and only 1 goal against. He's also 2nd on the team in hits with 37. Podkolzin has been a fantastic addition.
 
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He played 82 games, most of them with Draisaitl, and still only managed 8 goals. I like who he is now and I hope for a little more, but I don't expect much more.



It was easy to miss because it was sandwiched in between hip-injury ruined seasons, but Puljujarvi was at one point a terrific role player for the Oilers. He got ridiculous on ice results. If Podkolzin can do that, and more consistently this time, the Oilers would be thrilled.
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It was the thing about Podkolzin even before he came to NA. He isn't a scorer. But.

If you take the hardest workhorse on your team and place him next to Podkolzin, that workhorse will look like a lazy gelding...
 
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Rick Tocchet
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Don't think this is true. Tocchet was asked about him and he said that by the time he got to coach him he was too deep in the dog house and needed a fresh start elsewhere.

Puljujarvi for Pods would've been a good swap for both sides back when Pulju was an Oiler and still had some potential.
 
Luck 6 said:
A very dumb trade by the Canucks, from the moment it was made.

Not only did we trade away a potential top 6 utility player, signed for two years at 1mil, for a lowly 4th. We also traded him to what was at the time, barring this disaster of a season, our biggest competition within the division.

There was no reason to move on this trade as quickly as we did. I figured it would sting us at some point, I just hope it won't be that badly. If he ends up a 20g-20a line driver, that will be painful.
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He has been a pleasant surprise for the Oilers
 
syz said:
He's the NHL version of Puljujarvi. Almost never hurts to have him on the ice. Probably won't score but he'll make things hard for the other team.
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If he goes on a Nuke trajectory it might look bad for the Nucks long term.
 
LTIR said:
Don't think this is true. Tocchet was asked about him and he said that by the time he got to coach him he was too deep in the dog house and needed a fresh start elsewhere.

Puljujarvi for Pods would've been a good swap for both sides back when Pulju was an Oiler and still had some potential.
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I think the difference between a good coach and a bad coach is that they make the most of the players they have and help them be successful with the team.

This sounds like the opposite of that.
 
604 said:
I think the difference between a good coach and a bad coach is that they make the most of the players they have and help them be successful with the team.

This sounds like the opposite of that.
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Sometimes a situation is beyond repair that no coach can fix and itscjust best to move on.
Oilers have given up on dozens such players in recent past.
 

Vasily Podkolzin: 2%​

Finally, finishing last in our poll is Podkolzin. The production has been there, though unlike Brown or Perry, Podkolzin’s points are mostly assists. Six points through nine games is still impressive, and the 23-year-old has ramped up his totals on a per-game basis.

Podkolzin is physical, playing bigger than his listed height and weight. He has played up and down the lineup, and his assist total is aided by his stints on a line with Draisaitl. While his production has been impressive, it is understandable that Podkolzin had a hard time keeping up with Pickard in this poll.

Once a high-end prospect, Podkolzin has brought new life to his NHL career as a member of the Oilers. There is certainly potential for more from Podkolzin in the years ahead, especially if he can keep growing his game. There are reports that Podkolzin is often at practice early, working on his shot, which would greatly improve his impact while playing higher in the lineup.



 
Canucks classic dumb as shit move quitting on a guy way too early. But hey at least that never happens right?

Mikeyev didn’t get moved along with a pick then turn around and score 20 right?

Dickinson didn’t solidify himself as a great 3C after the team moved him right?

Beauvillier has been good since he left.

Lots of people have laughed when I’ve said Allvin is worse than Benning. But less and less are laughing now.

Came to the team with Miller, Petey and Horvat at centre. Somehow now has Petey and Chytil and that’s it.

Tocchet left. Clancey, Dorriere and many others. I. Short order. Podz is just the cherry. People liked him in Vancouver. Then they move him for nothing.

It’s a clown owned team and a clown run team. Will never change as long as Aquaman is the owner.
 
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