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SV % when the player slept for 8+ hours on game day. Probably means it excludes back to back games.
Value of: Varlamov/Pickard to ARZ
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SV % when the player slept for 8+ hours on game day. Probably means it excludes back to back games.
That's a basic in sport. Humans need much more time to get the energy back than spending energy. The time which is needed to get back to 100% depends on the energy cycle the body used. For example weightlifters use ATP as energy and can get the energy back within 3 minutes. That's what you can see in weightlifting contests. They get a 2nd chance within 3 minutes. Goalies use different energy cycles mostly burning glycogen but other cycles too, regeneration takes much much longer. But in the weightlifting example you might use all your energy in 5 seconds, if you need 150 seconds to get the energy back the factor is 30. This is similar to glycogen too, 30 times more rest than spending the energy. And then there are other factors involved to keep good goaltending.
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These trades make absolutely no sense for both teams. If Arizona needs a goalie now, you would think it would a veteran goalie to help Dominique.
Why would the Avs want to give up Pickard? Isn't he the goalie of their future? And Varlomov has zero chance of being taken by Vegas in the draft. There will be lots of goalie available at a cheaper price. Who wants to pay be 5.9m for Varlomov? Vegas can also use money on UFAs
Why would the Avs want to give up Pickard? Isn't he the goalie of their future? And Varlomov has zero chance of being taken by Vegas in the draft. There will be lots of goalie available at a cheaper price. Who wants to pay be 5.9m for Varlomov? Vegas can also use money on UFAs
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I've got high hopes for Domingue and even some hope for Langhammer. Plus there's Adin Hill. We've blown so many high picks on goalies at the draft over the years and none of them have ever worked out. All of them bust. We're due. One of our drafted goalies has to become an above average NHL player at some point.
Also, I hate expensive goalies. I'd always rather have a cheap, slightly above average starter than an elite starting making huge bucks. At least on a budget team like ours.
Also, I hate expensive goalies. I'd always rather have a cheap, slightly above average starter than an elite starting making huge bucks. At least on a budget team like ours.
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Domingue is not good at all. The others who knows.
Also, Varly isn't expensive, he's paid less than 6 mill. Not cheap, but not outlandish either. He's got a cap that's 300k more than your very own Smith.
Explain how Arizona is a budget team? They're right up against the cap. Maybe budget in that they took on the Pronger and Datsyuk contracts without having to spend actual dollars? Legit asking, not trying to argue, I simply don't know what their game plan is.
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Between Pronger, Datsyuk, and Bolland, that's a combined 18 million against the cap, and Arizona isn't actually paying them anything.
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strictlyrandy
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Completely forgot about Bolland. I was unsure if they were actually paying them anything. Thanks for the clarification.
There is no way Smith and that crutch of a contract should come back.
And Domingue is just plain not good. I really don't see how you guys can be happy with him.
And Domingue is just plain not good. I really don't see how you guys can be happy with him.
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At least CORSI is an actual measurement, not a stat created to win an argument on a hockey forum...
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corsi are 175 ft shots too
From Feb12 till Mar11 Domingue played 15 games in 29 nights. Pickard never played this workload in the NHL. The closest last season was 3 games in 5 nights, pretty much unproven. Most teams have such unproven goalies and there are opportunities each year to get these goalies for free or as a filler in a trade because these guys are not waiver exempt.
COL should develop him further, but it's strange, they prefer to overuse Varlamov b2b than using Pickard, as if they don't trust him.
If I were searching for a backup type goalie I would look for other guys, not Pickard.
Varlamov didn't play 15 games in 29 nights last season either. Since he is the starter I better should say Varlamov COULD NOT play the workload Domingue played. The longest stretch for Varlamov were 7 consecutive games, Domingue played 16 consecutive games
EVsave% last season
.925 Domingue
.923 Varlamov
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corsi are 175 ft shots too
From Feb12 till Mar11 Domingue played 15 games in 29 nights. Pickard never played this workload in the NHL. The closest last season was 3 games in 5 nights, pretty much unproven. Most teams have such unproven goalies and there are opportunities each year to get these goalies for free or as a filler in a trade because these guys are not waiver exempt.
COL should develop him further, but it's strange, they prefer to overuse Varlamov b2b than using Pickard, as if they don't trust him.
If I were searching for a backup type goalie I would look for other guys, not Pickard.
Varlamov didn't play 15 games in 29 nights last season either. Since he is the starter I better should say Varlamov COULD NOT play the workload Domingue played. The longest stretch for Varlamov were 7 consecutive games, Domingue played 16 consecutive games
EVsave% last season
.925 Domingue
.923 Varlamov
lol what even is this. bad grammar aside you cant honestly believe what you are saying.
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They truly believe it apparently. An entire body of work means nothing to them.
Lol. I love when people have to bend reality and cherry pick the stats to make them go in favor of their argument. Stats are stats. You can bend them any way you want to but Pickard at the end of the day has had a better save percentage than Domingue in both their years in the NHL.
If your EVsave% is accurate, that means that Pickard obviously drastically outperformed Domingue on shorthanded situations and PP situations. As the overall SV% was a full percentage point higher than Domingues. See I can cherry pick stats too.
And what the hell is EVsave% with rest? WTF? Who cares? This the NHL, you have to perform with whatever rest you get, sometimes you've got to play back to back situations or 3 games in 4 nights. That's just how it goes. You can't just say, "well if he'd had enough rest in between games he'd performed better" it doesn't work that way. You either perform when you are in net or you don't. I mean seriously how far does it go? The only reason he didn't have higher save percentage tonight was because he only got 7.9 hours of sleep instead of 8, and it was a Tuesday and he always has a low SV% on Tuesday, and since it was hotter than 60 degrees Fahrenheit he'll surrender at least 3 goals against. It's just insane, you are either stopping the puck, or you're not.
I'm not saying Domingue sucks or anything, I'm just saying Pickard is statistically better on a much weaker defensive team at the end of the day, right now at this current point in time.
Just keep your goalies, we don't need them.
EVsave% last season
.933 ARI Smith
.925 ARI Domingue
.923 COL Pickard
.923 COL Varlamov
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Smith isn't seriously hurt so there's no point to this thread. The Coyotes aren't playing structured this year so the defense is ass, naturally the goalies will look bad.
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