Confirmed Trade: [VAN/SJ] Jannik Hansen (20% retained) for Nikolay Goldobin & conditional 4th rounder

Siludin

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He never meshed with the coaching staff. He did well in the AHL, but every callup he's had with the big team has been ok to whatever.

A lot of questions about his defensive game, which is iffy on a team which prides itself on its defensive system. He had been improving little by little, but guys like Lebanc and Meier had already passed him by.

This is the last year of the Cup window, and Goldy was the most expendable piece.

This is like verbatim what the Flames fans said about Baertchi
 

Riptide

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This is like verbatim what the Flames fans said about Baertchi

The difference? Flames (and their fans) had multiple years of being able to look at Baertchi at the NHL level. He played games across 4 seasons in Calgary, and in the last 3 averaged 20 games a season, averaging around 15 minutes a game. That's a chance. Goldobin hasn't received that yet.
 

druncan

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Wishart was a throw-in for that trade. The Boyle traded was predicated on Matt Carle and the 1st as the return more than anything else.

No way was Wishart a throw-in. He was the young developmental project the Lightning hoped would be a cheap addition to their blueline within a couple years or so, not some plug they could stash in the minors or in the press box. Just because he didn't pan out doesn't mean his value as a prospect wasn't fairly high at the time of the trade.
 

Pinkfloyd

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No way was Wishart a throw-in. He was the young developmental project the Lightning hoped would be a cheap addition to their blueline within a couple years or so, not some plug they could stash in the minors or in the press box. Just because he didn't pan out doesn't mean his value as a prospect wasn't fairly high at the time of the trade.

I disagree and he was a throw-in. He was known as a project even at the time. Given the assets being returned, Matt Carle was the focal point of the return and the 1st was the secondary asset. His value wasn't that high at the time. Wishart, in terms of value, would actually be less than what Mueller's perceived value would have been after he played his rookie year in San Jose. In Mueller's case, it's not much and in Wishart's case then it was even less.

Mid-first round picks don't hold a lot of value after their draft until they make an impact at the NHL level or really impress at AHL level if they're given that opportunity. That wasn't the case for Wishart.
 

lawrence

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This is like verbatim what the Flames fans said about Baertchi

yeeeeup.

we traded for Baer 4 years after he was drafted

we trade for Golddobin 3 years after.

they said that about Gudbranson too, and its always after they get traded to Vancouver, were they pump up the negativity.
 

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