Confirmed with Link: [VAN/NYR] JT Miller, Erik Brannstrom, & Jackson Dorrington for Filip Chytil, Victor Mancini, and 1st 2025 (Top-13 Protected, Unprotected after)

[wolfgaze]

How is Chytil pronounced Heatle? What is that C even doing?

Wish I could help but I'm still trying to figure out the invisible 'H' in:

 

[FuzzyTitus]

Are they permitted to put accents on letters? Cause I imagine Satan is actually Šatan if it's anything like croatian. The Š is pronounced Sh.

 

[PuckMunchkin]

This place is going to be unbearable now that Team Miller here lost their boi.

 

[PuckMunchkin]

I find the pro-Pettersson crowd has really glazed over the public criticism dished out by Allvin in December. It seems to be almost totally disregarded. But it’s probably why Miller was so hard on Pettersson this season.

I dont trust his take on Petterssons health and how his knee affected his summer training.

I don’t get how you can be confident in that thought as if there wasn’t almost a deal with EP going to Carolina for Necas and stuff a week ago or whatever.

We dont know how far those discussions went.

From what Ive heard Miller was willing to waive for NYR & Carolina.



And we never actually looked like s contender. We just shot like the 85 Oilers for ~30 games.

So those who are sad that EP/Miller and or Alvin & JR are blowing up a contender. That is not the case.

 

[iceburg]

SO Miller 2 goals and minus 1 ...

 

[iceburg]

OK after sleeping on it, i still dont understand this at all...

How is Chytil pronounced Heatle? What is that C even doing?

 

[Lenny Levino]

I really don't want Vancouver to just be like Carolina where we go full country, at least the fins are really good. Petey is ranked top 2 probably of swedes rn and he's garbage. Allvin must be stopped

Canucks don't have an abnormal amount of Swedes compared to other teams in the league though. There are three or four of them in the line-up right now (1-Petey, 3-Petey, Hoglander -- and Karlsson if he stays). The Red Wings have six in their regular NHL line-up (with more of them in the AHL) for comparison.

It makes sense statistically since Sweden has the third-highest number of NHL players after Canada and the US. I think every single team in the league has at least one player from Sweden.

 

[ziploc]

Took me a long time to get over the Bure trade. He was my favourite player, and his departure felt like a huge betrayal. I know it was complicated.

Took me until probably this year to get over Kesler's douchebaggery.

Now Miller out, from a situation that appears from the outside to have been entirely preventable. I'm not going to hate on him, but I'm certainly not going to want to see him succeed in New York either.

 

[alternate]

Whose to blame between EP and JTM doesn't really matter to me. Don't get me wrong, I'd like to know the juicy details about what actually went down (was it more a Jeff Brown-Kirk McLean situation, or more Mark Messier-Pavel Bure) but who was #11 vs #10 isn't overly important.

What matters is EP40 is able to get back to Alien mode; MP## is able to give us one of the better bluelines in the league; and whether GMPA can effectively use the newly minted cap space.

Enough has already been said about the Million Dollar Babies, don't see a need for essays on the degree of blame each get. Now that the deal has been made, who said what to whom matters little.

As an aside for those saying JTM will be a toxic cloud in NYR the first time they have a slump, nah. He'll be his best Miller for at least a couple of years, and give the Rangers a hell of a player. If the toxic comes back it would be down the road after he has earned a spot in the leadership group.

 

[Jack Tripper]

I suppose it could be worse - you could be a Dallas Mavericks fan right now.

 

[Oliewud]

Great leader who literally pisses off all his teammates and controller disconnects once a game

 

[geebster]

This place is going to be unbearable now that Team Miller here lost their boi.

Since they are a fan of a player on the Rangers them posting here is now considered Trolling per rule #2. If you're a fan of another team and their players you shouldn't post acrimonious stuff on a diff teams forum.

 

[Bleach Clean]

Trying to ascribe the exact amount each is culpable is a fools errand. Because it’s more complicated than just their relationship and Miller being overly hard on him. Because you need to consider that Pettersson seems to have been not preparing well enough, and not being a good enough pro, or however you want to describe it, and Miller holding him accountable isn’t really unreasonable. And Allvin alluded to this in his press conference. He seemed to have praised Miller holding his teammates accountable.

And obviously things just festered from there, and I don’t doubt that Miller probably wouldn’t leave Pettersson alone despite being told to.

This is a false dichotomy. We dont know that they “chose” Miller. It’s just as conceivable that they wanted to re-sign both and were playing hardball with Miller, and when magically scored 50 goals they knew they had to trade him because they didn’t want to pay him based on a totally unsustainable and unprecedented pace.

I don’t know what you are even getting at. Pettersson seems to agree with Allvin on the criticism.

I think they generally preferred Miller’s attitude, preparation and drive to win. And you can’t blame them. But they also didn’t put up with his shit as well which seems to have led to the LOA. So I don’t really seem them being bias. I know you are a big Pettersson fan so perhaps your perspective is why you see a bias.
I think there are some big Pettersson fans that view things one way, and I think most of the balance thinks they are both blameworthy. Again, trying to ascribe the exact portions of blame is a fools errand and quite literally impossible.

And yet people keep apportioning said blame 50/50? Which is supported with... nothing. His on ice play has been poor. He's an introvert. Management states that the rift is between him and Miller, but what has he actually instigated behind the scenes? Nothing (pre rumour).

Miller was the one sent home for blowing up. Miller is known to have mistreated Pettersson (current rumour and Brad Richardson). Miller is the aggressor.

Cam Robinson specifically cites Demko and Hughes as being tired with Miller's antics. Is there any such player specific report for Pettersson?

We know that management loved Miller's preparation, drive and production. But they knew his personality too. They still prioritized his offseason re-signing over Horvat (fact). They may have wanted both, but thought more of Miller. They then let his personality loose on Pettersson. This is with the Horvat vs Miller rumour as the backdrop. Few have questioned management's judgement here. And yet, they're the proper litmus test to Pettersson's preparation? Don't make me laugh.

Nobody dared talk about Pettersson's preparation when he put up 102 points as a twig. Unprepared. This is just about management controlling for the minor injury impacts he may be suffering. It's his play they want back. It's not about converting Pettersson from a bad teammate to a good one.

 

[EpochLink]

Just realized that JT Miller has been struck by the Basant Motors curse lmao