Confirmed with Link: [VAN/NYR] JT Miller, Erik Brannstrom, & Jackson Dorrington for Filip Chytil, Victor Mancini, and 1st 2025 (Top-13 Protected, Unprotected after)

[GranvilleIsland]

That last Filip we got in a controversial trade worked out okay. Filip to Filip Czech connection.

 

[rypper]

Rumor going around now on Twitter about why Miller was on leave. Not great sources so look it out with a grain of salt.

 

[Diversification]

Top 13 protected while Rangers are maybe 50% or less chance to make the playoffs. An unprotected 1st would be a sexy option to dangle in a trade. Not including what we could get for Boeser at the deadline (at least a 2nd?).

Lots of cap and assets but humongous question marks at C, D, and G. Mgmt needs to nail this before Quinn bolts to New Jersey, which seems like a pretty tough if not impossible ask.

Agreed. It's very similar to the Islander's 1st a couple of years ago. Who's this year's Yzerman? Briere maybe?

 

[Reverend Mayhem]

You know things are f***ed when Taj is the voice of reason.

He still very much isn’t. He’s still the same goof as before, you just like what he has to say suddenly

who had taj being the voice of reason on their 2025 bingo card?

Idiots and morons did. But no one here ever has said that.

 

[ChilliBilly]

So we have a log jam coming. Hughes Hronek for years. Willander EP2 within 2 years? Mancini and Mynio? We have a ton of 5 - 8 guys in the pipeline. I think we are actually in decent shape if the forwards produce enough to make Hughes want to stay. Yeah, losing Miller hurts in some ways, but this could actually be a legit addition by subtraction scenario.

Gonna go with the brilliant analysis of: well I guess Weill see.

 

[SillyRabbit]

Gary Mason seems to agree:

This still doesn't make sense though.

My $60,000 truck is taking up too much space in my garage. I would like more space in my garage.

So I will give the truck away for $10,000. Sure, I lost $50,000 in value, but now I have all this space in my garage!

...what do you mean I could've sold the truck for $40,000 and still gotten that extra space in my garage?

 

[Diablo2020]

We survived this exact same scenario with Bo, with the exact same return as Bo, and we came out fine.

2 years later and only Aatu Raty remains from the original Bo trade yet we got the benefit(?) of Beauvillier, Lafferty, Zadorov in the process.

Then we have Filip Hronek, and Raty still today.

Have some faith.

Enjoy NYR Jt Miller, shame you had to implode.

This is a blessing.

We ditched the 32 yr olds NMC.

Now lets find a way to weaponize the 11.6 man.

Huggy. Will. Understand.

 

[arttk]

Rangers fans are lukewarm on this, which speaks volumes about Miller's reputation because they should be doing cartwheels.

It’s amazing how bad his reputation is.

 

[MikeK]

Rumor going around now on Twitter about why Miller was on leave. Not great sources so look it out with a grain of salt.

Interesting. If you don't mind PMing me what you read. I don't have an X acc.

 

[Reverend Mayhem]

f*** sakes I actually think Tajs take is pretty good.

 

[arttk]

This still doesn't make sense though.

My $60,000 truck is taking up too much space in my garage. I would like more space in my garage.

So I will give the truck away for $10,000. Sure, I lost $50,000 in value, but now I have all this space in my garage!

...what do you mean I could've sold the truck for $40,000 and still gotten that extra space in my garage?

Don’t use vehicle as an analogy

 

[rypper]

This still doesn't make sense though.

My $60,000 truck is taking up too much space in my garage. I would like more space in my garage.

So I will give the truck away for $10,000. Sure, I lost $50,000 in value, but now I have all this space in my garage!

...what do you mean I could've sold the truck for $40,000 and still gotten that extra space in my garage?

There's a ton more nuance to it, but i think you're purposely ignoring it.

 

[ChilliBilly]

Oh and some one provide info ... but why the hell don't teams say, if you want a protected 1st here is the deal. You can keep your 1st, but you give us your 2nd this year, and an unprotected 1st next year. Your choice.

Edit - is this sort of condition not allowed?

 

[Michael Dal Swolle]

Rangers fans are mad because they're 22nd in the league, tied for 9th out of 9 teams realistically competing for two wildcard spots in the east, and just sold futures for a 32 year old with the potential to further disrupt a locker room that has already imploded once this season.

 

[VancouverJagger]

Fuk Mancini is a hammer..........Please dear Jesus let him be a player. Our team needs a hammer like this that can make a first p

 

[Billy Kvcmu]

Miller and Mika together.

How long before Miller is traded by the Rangers?

That duo is going to be cinema.

Mike straight admitted in a Swedish news paper that hockey isn’t even his first passion, he only does it for a living cause he’s good at it

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Thanks for the info. What did you think about Mancini?

I don't really know much about him. He was one of our more promising defensive prospects but our D prospect pool isn't great. He gets his shots on net and he's a big guy that moves well but wasn't ready for NHL time. He got sent down because he wasn't great yet. But he still has promise.

 

[geebster]

Still think trading in off season made more sense. Too many people blame Pettersson when this is the third team Miller has caused problems on before being sent out. Seems like 90+% of the problem is JT Miller so the team just solved their locker room problems. However... Chytil probably does 20% of what Miller does for winning games?

We are a worse team even if Petey is back to Petey after this trade. If they use the 1st and get a legit defenseman then maybe we can eke it out but the team just lost a ton of its fire and clutch will to win etc. Don't know how you replace it.

 

[Reverend Mayhem]

Rumor going around now on Twitter about why Miller was on leave. Not great sources so look it out with a grain of salt.

Softly whispers “don’t”.

 

[mriswith]

After reflecting on it, I'm okay with this. Funnily enough, it's pretty similar to the same deal they offered in 2022.

What I am really mad about is them not having the foresight to do this ahead of the 2023 draft and stockpile 2023 1sts when it was glaringly obvious they should do so.

Rangers picked Perrault in 2023. The Penguins deal for Miller that fell through at the last minute was for two 1sts that ended up being Yager and Helenius. Either of those deals would have been franchise altering compared to this, which is also franchise altering but in the opposite direction.

Of course I think we got ripped off, Miller's been hurt all year and is aging wonderfully. When he ages out of centre he'll still be a great 1st line winger. By the time he ages into a 2nd line winger his 8 mil will be peanuts against the cap.

But the entire league seems to have never valued Miller, not even when he was a 100 point 1st line C, so that has to temper expectations.

Agreed. It's very similar to the Islander's 1st a couple of years ago. Who's this year's Yzerman? Briere maybe?

The massive difference in this deal is that was a 2023 1st and that draft was completely stacked. I haven't followed this years draft because I didn't expect to have a 1st but it doesn't seem anywhere near 2023's calibre.

 

[SillyRabbit]

There's a ton more nuance to it, but i think you're purposely ignoring it.

Explain?

"Getting rid of Miller"
"Fixing the locker room"
"Extra cap space"

All of those things are achieved with any JT Miller trade.

There's no reason to trade him for such a poor return.

People are just using those as excuses as to why the poor return was acceptable.

 

[calnuck]

I gotta say on first look I kinda hate this

 

[Flik]

Wrong thread lol

 

[GranvilleIsland]

Mike straight admitted in a Swedish news paper that hockey isn’t even his first passion, he only does it for a living cause he’s good at it

This is why the NHL needs to get rid of guaranteed contracts too many Loui Erikssons floating around on long term deals ruins the quality of the product. The NHLPA would never agree though.

 

[Lat]

Edit: wrong thread.