Isles wouldn’t touch this deal. Realistically doesn’t help them moving both Barzal and Horvat at a discount. Plus if they accepted the deal, there’s literally NO ONE to play in the top 6 as a center on the roster and a 3rd line winger plus defenseman who’s 3 years away doesn’t do anything for the team at the moment. There would need to be an upgrade if they were to move both together like this. Now with you bringing up Mynio, I don’t have an interest in him just like Mailloux who Habs fans keep including. Raty being returned doesn’t do it either.
The original offer is not the one you adjusted and that’s the one I had an issue with. That one was terrible for the Isles and doesn’t help them out one bit fill any holes left by moving out both Barzal and Horvat.
Mynio is the C+/B- prospect who had a grand total of 26 points, not Wallinder. I’ve heard enough about Wallinder to know better about him. Mynio should stay in Vancouver the same way Rathbone did when he kept getting included in deals being overhyped.
That’s more likes it for both honestly. I couldn’t see a team ever moving both of their top 6 centers (or top 2 forward) in the same deal without having a reasoning to do so. I would doubt Vancouver would move both top prospects without realistically not being able to sign one because they refused to play for Vancouver similarly to how Adam Fox held out from Calgary.
What are you talking about? Mynio had 45 points in 49GP last season. You can’t even read a stat sheet correctly, tells us everything we need to know about your ability to analyze talent.
Congrats on him getting traded and me overlooking the other part of the stat line. Still no interest in him nomatter how many times you try to spin him. The Islanders have plenty of LHD who will develop into a bottom pairing player.
I’m not trying to trade him to you. I’m just pointing out that you know nothing of the player and your opinion means nothing.
My opinion means nothing because I said no to the player being stuffed into a deal over a better prospect? Next time let’s try to stop asking for the Islanders top 2 forwards and thinking the 1st, 3rd line winger and a filler prospect is plenty to get a deal done. If the Isles offered up a 1st, Pierre Engvall and Danny Nelson for EP40, would you take it? I highly doubt it.
I’m not asking for anything from the Isles. I’m not the one acting as if I know the value of other teams’ assets while clearly knowing nothing of the player.
So it’s ok when other fanbases do it but no ok because I did it in this instance? We went through this with Barzal/Dobson/Horvat in other threads, same with Horvat. People claiming Barzal is injury prone and his stats are what they are while trying to push other players as being projected because a calculation is .XXX PPG. It’s the same never ending cycle of fanbases wanting player X but not willing to offer up any value because player X only did this for 2 seasons and not that. To cycle back to the original offer, it’s absolutely garbage for both combined and doesn’t really help the Islanders rebuild, it gives Vancouver both at a discount. Even adding in Raty and Mynio doesn’t do much except add in another at best B tier defensive prospect and a forward who will develop into another middle 6 body. Hoglander could have had a solid season but so did Engvall once Roy finally got him to turn on the switch. Too many veteran players with too much term on the Isles roster and some, if not most need to be moved out (all which will require assets to be attached in some form). Adding in more just prolongs that problem.
Dude, I’ve never commented once on this proposal and for the record I don’t think it’s good enough for the Isles to accept.
Well I’m glad to see youve at least upgraded Mynio’s prospect status to a “B” now that you have your correct stat line.
I hear ya, Isles’ roster and future is a complete mess. Old senile Lou needs to retire to pasture.
Even if you were to upgrade Mynio to a B status, still not interested. Realistically moving both Barzal and Horvat to get back 2 defensive prospects, a 3rd line winger (with excessive term), and picks (who will hopefully pan out and turn into forwards in that spot) really just becomes one of those trading card pack types of trades where it’s a fancy looking insert card and a bunch of base for 2 rookie cards.
So Vancouver clears $3 million in cap space by trading Hoglander but then takes on $17.65 million in cap (Horvat at $8.5 million, Barzal at $9.15 million).
I’m breaking this deal down as such:
