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Proposal: VAN-NJD-MTL ; CBJ-MTL

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1) NJD – MTL

To NJD:

- Alex Newhook
- Owen Beck
- Jayden Struble
- 16th overall pick

To MTL:

- Šimon Nemec
- Dawson Mercer


Mercer (18OA 2020) > Newhook (16OA 2019): No question, Mercer has more upside, stronger two-way game. But Newhook brings speed and versatility. Add Struble, a young NHL-ready LD with physical edge, and the gap narrows imo. Mercer is still the best forward in the deal, but not by a huge margin. MTL gambles on Mercer becoming a better fit at 2C than Newhook/Dach.

Nemec vs. Beck + 16OA: Nemec is still a top prospect, but three years post-draft, he hasn’t locked down an NHL spot. That window of peak prospect value is closing fast. Beck is an elite faceoff guy with middle-six upside, and 16OA adds flexibility needed for the next trade. Not quite equal, but MTL pays a premium to bet on Nemec’s ceiling as a top 4RD.

NJD sacrifices potential for immediate contributors and a key 1st for the next deal. This is a “shuffle the deck” deal that fits their GMs' comments. Beck & Newhook might cover Mercer's loss; Quinn Hughes will be more impactful on D than Mercer / Hamilton / Casey.


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2) VAN – NJD

To NJD:

- Quinn Hughes

To VAN:

- Dougie Hamilton
- Jayden Struble
- Seamus Casey
- 16OA 2025


Quinn is the prize in this overall deal. A top-3 offensive defenseman, elite skater, leader.

NJD reunites the Hughes brothers, a massive PR and performance play. They overpay as they should for it.

Hamilton is no slouch: Still a #1D when healthy. Add Casey (RH puck-moving D with real upside), Struble (LD with NHL reps), and a mid-1st, it’s a deep, controllable return.


For Vancouver: If Quinn’s future in Vancouver is uncertain, this is a smart hedge. Hamilton holds the fort during the reset. Casey and Struble can fit your long term plans and you now hold back-to-back picks in the 1st.

NJD:
Q. Hughes – Pesce
L. Hughes – Dillon
Siegenthaler – Kovacevic

VAN:
Pettersson – Hamilton
Myers - Hronek
Struble - Casey

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3) CBJ – MTL

To MTL:

- 14th Overall Pick
- 77th Overall Pick

To CBJ:

- 17th Overall Pick
- 108th Overall Pick
- 2026 2nd Round Pick (CBJ’s own)

CBJ has hinted at offer sheet interest, so they need their 2026 2nd to stay flexible. They only move down 3 spots in the 1st and up one round in the 3rd. A fair price to recover their own future asset.

MTL gets aggressive as they likely want to move up to catch a top-10 faller ot maybe even use Pittsburgh’s 2nd, they can push further up the board. Buffalo at 9OA maybe? Likely Buffalo would rather a swap of prospects on top of it though.


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MTL walks away with Nemec, Mercer, and better draft positioning which is a significant acceleration of their rebuild (are they even still considered as such considering the playoffs this year?)

NJD turns future potential into proven NHLers and an elite LD cornerstone in Quinn / get the 3 Hughes.

VAN makes a tough call on Quinn, but sets themselves up with long-term flexibility, a top-pair RD, and depth D assets.

CBJ gains flexibility for an offersheet, and likely the difference between 14 and 17 ain't that much in this draft.


Thoughts?
 
Don't think Vancouver fans will like trading Quinn for the lesser parts here. Devils are probably unwilling to move 3 RHD especially with it already being know that Kovacevic won't be ready for the start of the season.

I do appreciate you writing all this out though, IMO it just doesn't make a lot of sense for anyone besides MTL.
 
If thats all the Canucks get today for Quinn Hughes as a fan of the team id be happier to play him for two years and let him walk.

What a garbage offer.

Larry Brooks proposed the start would be Nemec, Silayev, Mercer and a 1st start there, then add. Then add a lil' more.

Jayden Struble. LOL. Cmon!

While I don't disagree that you can do better than the OP offer, Brooks is out to lunch and often is.
 
Terrible for Vancouver and completely unnecessary for Montreal. Doesn't address any needs for the Habs. Habs need a 2C. Dawson Mercer is not that.
 
If thats all the Canucks get today for Quinn Hughes as a fan of the team id be happier to play him for two years and let him walk.

What a garbage offer.

Larry Brooks proposed the start would be Nemec, Silayev, Mercer and a 1st start there, then add. Then add a lil' more.

Jayden Struble. LOL. Cmon!
Larry just trying to pave the way to help the Rags in conference! We'll wait until QH is UFA, cause that above aint happenin!
 
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Canucks immediately hang up. Getting Dougie Hamilton back does absolutely nothing for the team if Hughes is moved: they'll be in an immediate rebuild. We're barely able to compete now because of Hughes, how would we be more competitive with that offer?

And we have a surplus of defensive prospects, not getting some quality young forwards to balance out the deal makes it even more implausible. Hard, hard pass.
 
The only good idea here is the pick based one. But I suspect Columbus would want #16, not 17.
 
And somehow doesn't fill any of their needs.
Maybe. But any time you get quality pieces for nothing of significant value, it's most likely a positive move. Those are fairly nice upgrades to Beck and Struble.
 
Maybe. But any time you get quality pieces for nothing of significant value, it's most likely a positive move. Those are fairly nice upgrades to Beck and Struble.

Sure, but they would have to turn around and trade Mercer and Nemec (or Reinbacher/Mailloux) to actually achieve something worthwhile.
 
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There’s absolutely no incentive for Columbus to do it

I don’t believe we’re going to entertain doing any offer sheets.

I think we’re more likely to trade our first for a roster player so having a higher pick is better for this purpose
 
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Somehow, another one of those not posted by a Habs fan...
A quick browse of the OP’s posting history sure makes it look like they’re a Habs fan. The only team forum they post in is the Canadiens one. Most of their trade and prospect posts have involved Montreal. They may be located in or from Edmonton, but their preferred team does seem to be the Habs.
 
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Sure, but they would have to turn around and trade Mercer and Nemec (or Reinbacher/Mailloux) to actually achieve something worthwhile.
Which I can understand as a sticking point from Montreal's viewpoint. Trades aren't as easy as many would like to believe.
 
Larry just trying to pave the way to help the Rags in conference! We'll wait until QH is UFA, cause that above aint happenin!
You say this, but if Quinn was made available and jack/Luke went to management and told them to get him, they will pay the price and not wait 2 years.
 
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