Empoleon8771
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Giving him a NMC as well is downright bizarre.
Confirmed Signing with Link: [VAN] D Tyler Myers signs extension with the Canucks (3 years, $3M AAV)
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Giving him a NMC as well is downright bizarre.
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He was pretty good last year. I'm not saying its a great deal for an older defender but it certainly isn't a bad one and I think the AAV is maybe even slightly under market but the 3 years certainly evens that out.
Under new coaching/system - he was a much better player.
People are clinging to old tropes because it's hard being open-minded that a player can be successful when they've only heard jokes for a decade. That's what this reaction is mostly about.
Under new coaching/system - he was a much better player.
People are clinging to old tropes because it's hard being open-minded that a player can be successful when they've only heard jokes for a decade. That's what this reaction is mostly about.
Phrasing
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He wants to retire with Vancouver. Very clear that was the hangup in negotiations.
Allvin probably shouldn't have budged on the third year. If he declines and they need to move on by then, it'll have to be a buyout (which shouldn't be too expensive).
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People may laugh but this is probably still well below open market.
I think there's a very real chance he gets 5+ on July 1st, someone out there will be desperate for a huge, hulking right handed defenseman.
I think there's a very real chance he gets 5+ on July 1st, someone out there will be desperate for a huge, hulking right handed defenseman.
trellaine201
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Probably means they’re out on Guentzel.
Zadarov and Silovs still to go and then get a B level type top sixer to play with EP. Toffoli?
Zadarov and Silovs still to go and then get a B level type top sixer to play with EP. Toffoli?
It's a decent price for Myers. I feel like this may take Canucks out of the running cap-wise for a big fish. Hopefully not...
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They need 2 fwds, 1 D and 1 G still, Lindholm probably walks, Zadorov is still doable.
Still have 14.5 and only need 2 fwds, 1.5D, and 1G.
Gross. I know he’s well liked by the team and he wasn’t as bad last year, but it was time to move on unless he signed for like 2X2. They already don’t have much room to add more important pieces like a legit #4 or a winger for Petey. If they had more room, 3 wouldn’t be the worst on a 1 year deal like with Cole last year, but 3 years until he’s 36?
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Empoleon8771
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Yeah looking at their cap structure, I don't think they have the money to go after Guentzel anymore with this. Unless they're willing with going into next year with some massive holes, I don't see the money as being available.
$15.4 million in cap space including LTIR with needing probably 2 top-6 wingers (I don't view Suter as a legitimate top-6 guy), a 3rd pair LD and a backup goalie is definitely doable, but probably not to the "bring in Jake Guentzel" level.
They look like they're sitting with:
XXXXX-Pettersson-Hoglander
Suter-Miller-Boeser
Joshua-Blueger-Garland
Di Giuseppe-Aman-Podkolzin
XXXXX-XXXXX
Hughes-Hronek
Soucy-Myers
XXXXX-Friedman/Juulsen
Juulsen/Friedman
Demko-XXXXX
And frankly, that bottom-4 defense and top-6 winger group looks pretty gross to me.
Martin Skoula
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Islanders and Nucks need to have an agreement that only 1 of Myers and Engvall can play when they face each other, home team gets prio. Does the CBA have guidance in place for what happens if two players get their necks tied in an impossible knot? Combine their cap hits and flip a coin on who keeps them?
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Was starting to forget what it felt like to be a Canucks fan with all of the great moves lately. But there it is. Really don’t like this. Myers only wanted to be here and is going to be 35 next year. No reason to go three years here.
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3x3 is less than what Myers would have gotten on the market but somehow it's still an overpayment?
Phrasing
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Wouldn’t have gone for 2 years at that cap hit, or at least for three years max out at $2.5M.
I think this one will bite Canucks in the end.
I think this one will bite Canucks in the end.
mrdomino
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honestly he earned the 3x3 re-up from this alone in 2021
Even with the 3rd year it won't hurt too much with the cap rising and Alvin is taking care of business
Pure Slaughter Value
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3x3 is less than what Myers would have gotten on the market but somehow it's still an overpayment?
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3 for what he did last year is probably ok, but he shouldn’t be in the top 4 regularly and at that price point he’s an expensive luxury on the bottom pair on a team that doesn’t have a lot of money to fill other holes. He’s also 34, so even if he’s the same player next year he probably won’t be for the whole deal. I wouldn’t say it’s clinging to old tropes to not like this. I think it would be better to spend on second pair RD upgrade and run Juulsen/Friedman on the bottom pair, but that’s without knowing what the prices are going to be yet
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