Proposal: Value of San Jose 2025 1st

[BHFAN92]

with Grier sounding at least open to trading the pick what would be some offers that would be acceptable? Hypothetical San Jose lands #1 ova what would it take?

 

[howkie]

We hear this every year, and what the ask is no way near what the real value is for the tardeing club. 2023 and 2024 were years you wanted to have the first overall, not this year.

 

[Sendhelplease]

I knew that this thread was going to appear soon after reading GMMG's comments. I am prepared to be thoroughly underwhelmed by the offers that are proposed on here.

 

[BHFAN92]

I knew that this thread was going to appear soon after reading GMMG's comments. I am prepared to be thoroughly underwhelmed by the offers that are proposed on here.

If San Jose lands #1 and Blackhawks land #3 would pick swap, Toronto's 1st in 2025, Florida's 1st in 2026 and Korchinski be enough for San Jose to move back 2 spots? They land a top 4 young dman, still have #3 overall plus pick up two more 1st rd picks

 

[BLNY]

Is the idea to trade it so they can better position themselves for McKenna?

 

[Mrfenn92]

Don’t see any reason to move it

 

[TGWL]

You just want the Hawks to find a way to get it without winning the lotto and getting eliminated from moving up in the lotto next year. I'm on to what you're doing...


But 0 chance here.

 

[Canovin]

Trying to sucker Chicago into trading their 2026 pick for it lol

 

[Glorydays22]

Who cares, Sharks are not trading the pick and if they do, they would want too much anyway....everyone save your breath.

 

[SannywithoutCompy]

If San Jose lands #1 and Blackhawks land #3 would pick swap, Toronto's 1st in 2025, Florida's 1st in 2026 and Korchinski be enough for San Jose to move back 2 spots? They land a top 4 young dman, still have #3 overall plus pick up two more 1st rd picks

Jeez I like Schaefer but is the difference between him and Martone/Hagens that big?

Unless Chicago is targeting Misa with that pick, in which case I'd imagine you can get him at 2

 

[BHFAN92]

Jeez I like Schaefer but is the difference between him and Martone/Hagens that big?

Unless Chicago is targeting Misa with that pick, in which case I'd imagine you can get him at 2

Schaefer is top tier and then drop off to Misa and then big drop off to Martone/Frondell/Hagens

 

[seabass45]

They say this to keep the door open just in case but it's probably not happening.

If San Jose lands #1 and Blackhawks land #3 would pick swap, Toronto's 1st in 2025, Florida's 1st in 2026 and Korchinski be enough for San Jose to move back 2 spots? They land a top 4 young dman, still have #3 overall plus pick up two more 1st rd picks

And this definitely isn't happening. Blackhawks need more good young players more than they need to move up two spots in a draft that doesn't seem particularly strong and doesn't have a #1 that is heads and shoulders above everyone else.

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

By the comparisons he used, it sounds like he would trade the pick for a massive haul.

The Predators and Flyers both have two late 1sts and multiple 2nds, on top of their top 5 picks. What I assume he meant by the Ricky Williams+Herschel Walker example is that he would trade down for a massive quantity of picks.

In 2013, the Flames offers Colorado 6th, 22nd, and 28th for 1st. Maybe something like that.

 

[BHFAN92]

Who cares, Sharks are not trading the pick and if they do, they would want too much anyway....everyone save your breath.

I agree its a pipe dream...but their GM brought it up so worth speculating

 

[matt trick]

If San Jose lands #1 and Blackhawks land #3 would pick swap, Toronto's 1st in 2025, Florida's 1st in 2026 and Korchinski be enough for San Jose to move back 2 spots? They land a top 4 young dman, still have #3 overall plus pick up two more 1st rd picks

I’m a big believer there’s no substitute for elite talent. When that elite talent perfectly slots into our team needs (#1 D or LW/C to pair with Smith), both of whom are elite skaters, give me Schaefer or Misa. Include Rinzel (or Lev) instead of Korchinski and that changes things dramatically. I know the Hawks wouldn’t do that.

There’s been a bit of discussion on the sharks board about whether we’d trade Schaefer for McKenna. It’s close, neither one is the type of player you can acquire. I think Schaefer and a top forward in 26 gives us a core that could win cups. McKenna, Celebrini, Smith, Eklund, and Cherny would be ridiculous, but we’d still be hunting for a 1D.

Note: edited autocorrect from Lev to Alec. No we don’t want Martinez!

 

[BHFAN92]

They say this to keep the door open just in case but it's probably not happening.


And this definitely isn't happening. Blackhawks need more good young players more than they need to move up two spots in a draft that doesn't seem particularly strong and doesn't have a #1 that is heads and shoulders above everyone else.

I 100% disagree..Matthew Schaefer is that dude.

 

[SML2]

If San Jose lands #1 and Blackhawks land #3 would pick swap, Toronto's 1st in 2025, Florida's 1st in 2026 and Korchinski be enough for San Jose to move back 2 spots? They land a top 4 young dman, still have #3 overall plus pick up two more 1st rd picks

Why? Remember the year everyone thought the Avs got screwed, they got Makar at 4. The year the Rangers got Lafreniere, the Sens got Stutzle at 3. Who do you love enough to risk it?

 

[SEALBound]

If they get 1ov, they take Schaeffer. Schaeffer is who they need.

If they get 2nd OV and they know 100% whoever gets 1ov is taking Schaeffer, then there could be a discussion if a team has a premium young dman and wants Misa. Buffalo and Owen Power?

 

[Cas]

Is the idea to trade it so they can better position themselves for McKenna?

Why would our pick this year be of any relevance to our chances of picking #1 next year? Whoever we're drafting isn't going to take this team out of the basement in one season.

 

[Patty Ice]

If San Jose lands #1 and Blackhawks land #3 would pick swap, Toronto's 1st in 2025, Florida's 1st in 2026 and Korchinski be enough for San Jose to move back 2 spots? They land a top 4 young dman, still have #3 overall plus pick up two more 1st rd picks

That's more than enough, but I think it would be a mistake since in my opinion. Matt Schaefer is one of the final pieces that San Jose is going to need if they want to be a contender.

 

[bert]

with Grier sounding at least open to trading the pick what would be some offers that would be acceptable? Hypothetical San Jose lands #1 ova what would it take?

There is absolutely no chance they trade 1st OA if they get it.

 

[Shark Finn]

Is the idea to trade it so they can better position themselves for McKenna?

They're still in the best position.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

They're always open to trading it, but there's not going to be a deal.

 

[Gecklund]

if you actually read the quote he uses the Herschel Walker trade as an example. In that trade, Dallas got 3 firsts, 3 2nds, a third and a 6th. So basically Grier said “it’s available but it’s going to cost your entire future”

 

[Gecklund]

If San Jose lands #1 and Blackhawks land #3 would pick swap, Toronto's 1st in 2025, Florida's 1st in 2026 and Korchinski be enough for San Jose to move back 2 spots? They land a top 4 young dman, still have #3 overall plus pick up two more 1st rd picks

Nope not even close. Korchinski is pretty bad. Make it 3rd overall + Levshunov for 1st overall otherwise no thanks.