Proposal: Value of Quinn Hughes

[Peter Griffin]

They think we're going to give them Nico.

Don’t speak for everyone.

 

[HellOnIce]

Potential #1 center.

For 2 years, it's never going to happen. It's absurd.

 

[Rolo]

Random fantasy trade that both sides probably wouldn't accept (I'm a Hawks fan and I LOVEEE Hughes, wanted him so bad in the 2018 draft)

To Van: 2025 CHI 1st (proj 2nd-3rd OA can select Misa or Hagens), Kevin Korchinski,
Joe Veleno, Arvid Soderblom

To Chi: Quinn Hughes, rights to Brock Boeser, 2025 VAN 1st (15 oa), Thatcher Demko

CHI cops Marchment&Dumba in a cap-dump esque deal.

Marchment - Bedard - Boeser
Donato - Nazar - Teravainen
Bertuzzi - Moore - Mikheyev
Dach - Dickinson - Foligno

Hughes - Rinzel
Vlasic - Levshunov
Del Mastro - Murphy
Kaiser - Dumba

Demko
Knight

Debrusk - Pettersson - Lekkermaki
Hoglander - Suter - Garland
Chytil - Misa - Sherwood
Joshua - Veleno - O'Connor

M.Pettersson - Hronek
Korchinski - Myers
D-Petey - Willander
Mancini

Lankinen
Soderblom

 

[Ekiru]

And lots of teams could re-sgn him and some of them are a lot better than New Jersey. The 8th year is a real thing. New Jersey is in no better position to land Hughes than any other team. The offers in this thread are putrid.

Saying other teams can land Quinn is a fact, and one many are ignoring. But to then follow that with 'New Jersey is in no better position'.. well, thats just factually wrong. Where his brothers play matters to him

 

[HellOnIce]

What I find hilarious coming from devils fans saying they'll just wait and sign him in ufa is the lack of realization that even on a team friendly deal Hughes will cost 15 mil a season if not more with a 110mil salary cap. Sure it's going up but the value for the next 2 years for Hughes at 7.85 is insane.
If it was this offseason the package from NJ is silayev, Nemec, 26 and 27 firsts, Mercer and whatever they might want to do for salary. And I'm willing to bet NJ smiles while filing the trade because they just got the best/second best dman(top 5 playdriver) in the league and hardly took anything off their roster.

5 1sts for a guy who wants to come here? Not sure that's going to work out for ya brother. Package isn't going to be that big. Get ready up in Vancouver to be disappointed

 

[HellOnIce]

Random fantasy trade that both sides probably wouldn't accept (I'm a Hawks fan and I LOVEEE Hughes, wanted him so bad in the 2018 draft)

To Van: 2025 CHI 1st (proj 2nd-3rd OA can select Misa or Hagens), Kevin Korchinski,
Joe Veleno, Arvid Soderblom

To Chi: Quinn Hughes, rights to Brock Boeser, 2025 VAN 1st (15 oa), Thatcher Demko

CHI cops Marchment&Dumba in a cap-dump esque deal.

Marchment - Bedard - Boeser
Donato - Nazar - Teravainen
Bertuzzi - Moore - Mikheyev
Dach - Dickinson - Foligno

Boeser rights don't matter anymore. Has to be moved prior to the TDL.

 

[iFan]

Random fantasy trade that both sides probably wouldn't accept (I'm a Hawks fan and I LOVEEE Hughes, wanted him so bad in the 2018 draft)

To Van: 2025 CHI 1st (proj 2nd-3rd OA can select Misa or Hagens), Kevin Korchinski,
Joe Veleno, Arvid Soderblom

To Chi: Quinn Hughes, rights to Brock Boeser, 2025 VAN 1st (15 oa), Thatcher Demko

CHI cops Marchment&Dumba in a cap-dump esque deal.

Marchment - Bedard - Boeser
Donato - Nazar - Teravainen
Bertuzzi - Moore - Mikheyev
Dach - Dickinson - Foligno

Hughes - Rinzel
Vlasic - Levshunov
Del Mastro - Murphy
Kaiser - Dumba

Demko
Knight

Debrusk - Pettersson - Lekkermaki
Hoglander - Suter - Garland
Chytil - Misa - Sherwood
Joshua - Veleno - O'Connor

M.Pettersson - Hronek
Korchinski - Myers
D-Petey - Willander
Mancini

Lankinen
Soderblom

Let’s make it simple… Hughes for Bedard. Bedard wants to be in Vancouver anyways

 

[Rolo]

Boeser rights don't matter anymore. Has to be moved prior to the TDL.

Nah, it gives them the ability to talk to him earlier (ala Guentzel / TBL)
If Quinn and Demko were already here, would be more likely to sign..

But this is fantasy land talk anyways

 

[Izzy Goodenough]

Sorry to disappoint the " Devil's Advocates" but the idea that the New Jersey Devils are the only realistic destination where Quinn Hughes would sign a long-term extension is likely untrue. Detroit, Michigan, could be a more appealing option, not only because it’s close to the Hughes family's hometown, but also because it offers the possibility for Quinn and, eventually, his brothers to play together for the Red Wings while allowing their parents to attend games regularly. All three Hughes brothers, Quinn, Jack, and Luke, played for the Compuware youth hockey program during their early development. Additionally, both Quinn and Luke Hughes played college hockey at the University of Michigan. All three Hughes brothers, spend their off-seasons in Michigan, strengthening their ties to the area and making the Red Wings a natural fit for the family.

Finally, Luke Hughes is apparently not eligible for an offer sheet this year, but if he signs only a one-year extension, he would likely become offer sheet-eligible next season. This would occur one year before Quinn becomes a UFA, creating the possibility for whichever team holds Quinn’s rights to reunite two of the three brothers in 2026.

What could a Red Wings offer look like?

 

[Vergil]

This is laughably ignorant. The first few months of the season he looked like Jaccob Slavin.

The only thing he needs is consistency, but he's already shown flashes of being an excellent defensive player.

"This is laughably ignorant. Let me one up you and compare the guy that can't play defense (except for maybe 15 games) with the best shutdown D in the league. I'm intelligent and should be taken seriously."

 

[Vergil]

seems logical the trade would be Nemec, Mercer and two 1sts.

And Mercer CAN play center. Do the deal Vancouver lmao.

 

[D3vilsH0ck3y]

Lot of coping in this thread. I'm sorry Quinn wants to play with his brothers and they are in NJ. You Nucks fans can try and convince another team to offer you that monster package you are looking for. No team will give you what you want for two years max of Quinn no matter how many times/different ways you ask. You aren't getting a future #1C for him.

Again I sympathize with the position you guys are in but don't take it out on us devils fans lol.

 

[Vergil]

Lot of coping in this thread. I'm sorry Quinn wants to play with his brothers and they are in NJ. You Nucks fans can try and convince another team to offer you that monster package you are looking for. No team will give you what you want for two years max of Quinn no matter how many times/different ways you ask. You aren't getting a future #1C for him.

Again I sympathize with the position you guys are in but don't take it out on us devils fans lol.

I remember when Devils fans were on the opposite end of the bro spectrum, when Scotty Niedermayer dumped the Devils for Rob and the Ducks.

It happens. And I'm sure they learned. They were preparing for this very situation as soon as they got that #1 pick and got Jack.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

"This is laughably ignorant. Let me one up you and compare the guy that can't play defense (except for maybe 15 games) with the best shutdown D in the league. I'm intelligent and should be taken seriously."

Where does the desire come from to fabricate criticism about a player you clearly don't watch?

Such an odd thing to do.

 

[Peter Griffin]

For 2 years, it's never going to happen. It's absurd.

So a prospect with #1 potential is an absurd ask for 2 years of a Norris candidate and arguable top 5/10 player league wide? Noted.

 

[Vergil]

Where does the desire come from to fabricate criticism about a player you clearly don't watch?

Such an odd thing to do.

I'd love to hear what Carolina fans would think of this Luke Hughes being capable of playing like Jaccob Slavin talk. I'm sure they'll laugh you back to your echo chamber where you all convince yourselves that he can play defense.

That's a pretty odd thing, but some people live in reality, and some people lie to themselves.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

I'd love to hear what Carolina fans would think of this Luke Hughes being capable of playing like Jaccob Slavin talk. I'm sure they'll laugh you back to your echo chamber where you all convince yourselves that he can play defense.

That's a pretty odd thing, but some people live in reality, and some people lie to themselves.

He'll never be Jaccob Slavin, but his reach, skating, active stick, and puck moving ability are all very similar. He's proven to be very good defensively, no need to be jealous.

There are a few clips in the end of this reel that are a good example of stuff he does several times each game:

 

[The Grinder]

Yah, but Hughes would probably say no elsewhere. His final destination is going to be NJ. What a lucky team. Going to get a dman like Hughes b/c he wants to play with his bros. I still cannot fathom why Jim would say that publicly. He ruined his leverage. Mindboggling

Its mind bottling, as in bottles the mind.

Which yes it was.

 

[Ekiru]

So a prospect with #1 potential is an absurd ask for 2 years of a Norris candidate and arguable top 5/10 player league wide? Noted.

Yeah, thats probably about right. Why would a team trade a possible 5-10 year #1 for two years of a #1?

 

[Izzy Goodenough]

 

[theoptimist]

They think we're going to give them Nico.

Quinn is a big part of their team and Nico is a big part of our team. A player for player trade. I understand the reason. However, we are in position to go after Quinn and they are not in a position to go after Nico.

It’s quite surprising how biased their media is too, deliberating whether a Jack and Luke trade are possible. It’s piss poor journalism.

My point is: Quinn will be a Devil and we will pay them whatever they want this summer. Whatever they want, we have it. They just have to ask.

 

[Peter Griffin]

Yeah, thats probably about right. Why would a team trade a possible 5-10 year #1 for two years of a #1?

Maybe I’m catergorizing #1 center incorrectly. I’m basically saying that the Canucks should be looking for a center equivalent value of Simon Nemec.

 

[Izzy Goodenough]

 

[McShogun99]

Probably something like 13x7 when he hits UFA.

 

[Izzy Goodenough]