Proposal: Value of Quinn Hughes

Thats extremely far fetched.

Quinn would have to be as unguarded and naive as JR to reveal something as impactful while still skating 25+ minutes running his squad. Every indication around vancouver is that it's not something Quinn has ever discussed, nor expected to. You might as well argue that he was inebriated, and it slipped out that he has always wanted to go to Jersey after one too many.

Sure it's possible, just unlikely.

I get the furore he generated. Occam's razor suggests its just him suggesting a possible reason 43 would opt out of signing, nothing earth shattering like "he wants out". In this age of sensationalism, sorry to disappoint.


Pretty clear what he said unless you want to ignore reality.
 
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To New Jersey:
Quinn Hughes

To Vancouver:
Dougie Hamilton
Simon Nemec
Dawson Mercer
2026 1st round pick
Lenni Hameenaho


As someone mentioned above, it might be in Vancouver's best interest to just move on from Quinn now. The longer they wait, the less leverage they will have on a potential return via trade - because it just means less time New Jersey has to wait until they get him for free.

Vancouver could always move Quinn to another team in the meantime, but it is probable they would get the best return from New Jersey considering that is the destination he will likely sign longterm 15 months from now when he is eligible.
 
To New Jersey:
Quinn Hughes

To Vancouver:
Dougie Hamilton
Simon Nemec
Dawson Mercer
2026 1st round pick
Lenni Hameenaho


As someone mentioned above, it might be in Vancouver's best interest to just move on from Quinn now. The longer they wait, the less leverage they will have on a potential return via trade - because it just means less time New Jersey has to wait until they get him for free.

Vancouver could always move Quinn to another team in the meantime, but it is probable they would get the best return from New Jersey considering that is the destination he will likely sign longterm 15 months from now when he is eligible.

I mean sign me up for that but I doubt Dougie’s signing up for that.
 
To New Jersey:
Quinn Hughes

To Vancouver:
Dougie Hamilton
Simon Nemec
Dawson Mercer
2026 1st round pick
Lenni Hameenaho


As someone mentioned above, it might be in Vancouver's best interest to just move on from Quinn now. The longer they wait, the less leverage they will have on a potential return via trade - because it just means less time New Jersey has to wait until they get him for free.

Vancouver could always move Quinn to another team in the meantime, but it is probable they would get the best return from New Jersey considering that is the destination he will likely sign longterm 15 months from now when he is eligible.
THIS right here. trade him this summer. value will be max now that there is still two seasons full seasons let on his deal.
 
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To New Jersey:
Quinn Hughes

To Vancouver:
Dougie Hamilton
Simon Nemec
Dawson Mercer
2026 1st round pick
Lenni Hameenaho


As someone mentioned above, it might be in Vancouver's best interest to just move on from Quinn now. The longer they wait, the less leverage they will have on a potential return via trade - because it just means less time New Jersey has to wait until they get him for free.

Vancouver could always move Quinn to another team in the meantime, but it is probable they would get the best return from New Jersey considering that is the destination he will likely sign longterm 15 months from now when he is eligible.

Vancouver needs to take a run at an extension after 7/1. Once he turns it down that is pretty much the exact package I think it will be. New Jersey will probably haggle on Mercer just because of how bad their forward depth is.
 
I mean sign me up for that but I doubt Dougie’s signing up for that.

Maybe NJ and VAN could work with a 3rd team to send Dougie to.

And Vancouver can retain a portion of the contract to make it work.

Either way - I don't see an avenue where Quinn Hughes and Dougie Hamilton are both patrolling NJ's blueline. I think if you enter Quinn, it means Hamilton is on his way out.
 
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Vancouver needs to take a run at an extension after 7/1. Once he turns it down that is pretty much the exact package I think it will be. New Jersey will probably haggle on Mercer just because of how bad their forward depth is.
Quinn isn't eligible for a contract extension until July 1 2026, so still 14 months away from that.

Yeah - I could see NJ trying to include Palat instead of Mercer and add picks/prospects if Vancouver is going full rebuild.
 
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Vancouver needs to take a run at an extension after 7/1. Once he turns it down that is pretty much the exact package I think it will be. New Jersey will probably haggle on Mercer just because of how bad their forward depth is.

Quinn isn’t extension eligible until next summer not this one. It’s why I don’t think anything happens for another year. Also like I’ve said the issue with this package is Dougie has a 10 team trade list and I doubt a rebuilding Vancouver would be a place he wants to go.

Now Nemec+Mercer+Lenni+1st I’m in for next summer. Yeah the Mercer things hurts the depth but by next summer all 3 of Dougie/Palat/Dillon should be dumped. We should have space to build out a good forward group. The issue with building that forward group is Fitz is a dummy but I also don’t think he lasts that long.
 
Maybe NJ and VAN could work with a 3rd team to send Dougie to.

And Vancouver can retain a portion of the contract to make it work.

Either way - I don't see an avenue where Quinn Hughes and Dougie Hamilton are both patrolling NJ's blueline. I think if you enter Quinn, it means Hamilton is on his way out.

Now this would make more sense
 
It was obvious. I remember his face when Luke was drafted. I sensed he was envious. His signing until 2027 instead of 2030 was another sign. Coincidentally, it's the minimum term to become a UFA. In 2022, seeing that Vancouver wouldn't go very far with the current group, I proposed a Nemec (highly rated at the time) for Q. Hughes trade.I remember being harassed by Canucks fans who didn't want to see it.

There. Here we are. It's clear he's going to leave. Obviously, today the trade wouldn't center around Nemec, who's no longer worth much.Silayev + Yegorov + Casey + Nemec + Hameenaho + 2 Round 1 picks (Vancouver with a rebuilding perspective).

For me, Quinn still has this idea. It was pointless to start the process without Luke being a part of the team. Now that it's done, the message has been conveyed. The three brothers are very close and want to build their legend together.
 
It was obvious. I remember his face when Luke was drafted. I sensed he was envious. His signing until 2027 instead of 2030 was another sign. Coincidentally, it's the minimum term to become a UFA. In 2022, seeing that Vancouver wouldn't go very far with the current group, I proposed a Nemec (highly rated at the time) for Q. Hughes trade.I remember being harassed by Canucks fans who didn't want to see it.

There. Here we are. It's clear he's going to leave. Obviously, today the trade wouldn't center around Nemec, who's no longer worth much.Silayev + Yegorov + Casey + Nemec + Hameenaho + 2 Round 1 picks (Vancouver with a rebuilding perspective).

For me, Quinn still has this idea. It was pointless to start the process without Luke being a part of the team. Now that it's done, the message has been conveyed. The three brothers are very close and want to build their legend together.

That’s an absurd package. That is almost all of the Devils real trade assets to add to a position of strength for a guy that might come anyway. Yeah Quinn’s incredible but there’s no reason for the Devils to completely empty out the cupboard for him.
 
That’s an absurd package. That is almost all of the Devils real trade assets to add to a position of strength for a guy that might come anyway. Yeah Quinn’s incredible but there’s no reason for the Devils to completely empty out the cupboard for him.
With Quinn Hughes, there is no room for Casey and Nemec because it requires placing physical defensive defenders. The other prospects are very easily interchangeable on the market. The 1st round picks would be very low picks. Quinn Hughes is the 2nd best offensive defender in the league. It costs a lot of money and NJ is only giving away young players blocked by Quinn or uncertain for a certain elite talent, probably signed at a bargain price.
 
With Quinn Hughes, there is no room for Casey and Nemec because it requires placing physical defensive defenders. The other prospects are very easily interchangeable on the market. The 1st round picks would be very low picks. Quinn Hughes is the 2nd best offensive defender in the league. It costs a lot of money and NJ is only giving away young players blocked by Quinn or uncertain for a certain elite talent, probably signed at a bargain price.

That doesn't mean NJ will just gut their entire cupboards to get Quinn now when they would have the opportunity to get him for free in 2 years from now....

Will NJ give up a lot of value for Quinn to get him now? Yes they will. But will they overpay to make it happen? No
 
How many brothers did Dubois have on the Habs?
???

He openly talked about wanting to play in Montreal. It was widely discussed he would end up in Montreal and that the Habs did not need to trade anything of value for him. They could just wait and sign him for free.

Clearly, that did not work.

And dont presuppose the players want to stay in Jersey. Maybe they want to play with their brother somewhere else.
 
That doesn't mean NJ will just gut their entire cupboards to get Quinn now when they would have the opportunity to get him for free in 2 years from now....

Will NJ give up a lot of value for Quinn to get him now? Yes they will. But will they overpay to make it happen? No
I don't think it's very expensive. An elite player is worth much more than a sum of players who will be at best average players that you can easily replace on the free agent market.

As a Montreal fan, I'm taking Quinn Hughes over the accumulation of uncertain prospects. Quantity doesn't equal quality.

If Montreal didn't already have Hutson, I'd be keen to get him in exchange for Mailloux, Struble, Beck, Fowler, Reinbacher and 2 1st round picks.
 
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Just for fun - there is a storyline here for trading Jack / Luke to NJ.
based on:

the Injury History of Jack . NJ ownership cannot be happy that their star Centre cant seem to play a full season. what help is he if he isnt playing?

Marky underperforming leaves them with a need for goaltending.

NJ being a "smaller" team needing some bite to take it over the edge.
Canucks need to overpay still obviously.

The trade:

Jack Hughes
Luke Hughes
Dougie Hamilton -(Cap dump)
Jacob Markstrom
-
Thatcher Demko (Resigned, pending nj dr confirmation)
Elias Pettersson (30% retention to match J Hughes)
Elias Pettersson .Dman

2025 1st & 2nd
2026 1st (Unprotected) & 2nd
 
Just for fun - there is a storyline here for trading Jack / Luke to NJ.
based on:

the Injury History of Jack . NJ ownership cannot be happy that their star Centre cant seem to play a full season. what help is he if he isnt playing?

Marky underperforming leaves them with a need for goaltending.

NJ being a "smaller" team needing some bite to take it over the edge.
Canucks need to overpay still obviously.

The trade:

Jack Hughes
Luke Hughes
Dougie Hamilton -(Cap dump)
Jacob Markstrom
-
Thatcher Demko (Resigned, pending nj dr confirmation)
Elias Pettersson (30% retention to match J Hughes)
Elias Pettersson .Dman

2025 1st & 2nd
2026 1st (Unprotected) & 2nd
Forgot to say - Swap D Petey for Hronek if NJ wants him instead
 
That doesn't mean NJ will just gut their entire cupboards to get Quinn now when they would have the opportunity to get him for free in 2 years from now....

Will NJ give up a lot of value for Quinn to get him now? Yes they will. But will they overpay to make it happen? No

It’d also be one thing if we’re lacking on D but we aren’t. Sure obviously Quinn would be our best Dman but we’re set up to need very minimal changes on the backend for 5+ years and maintain a great D group the whole time. You don’t throw everything you have to bolster that strength even more. Our forward group beyond the stars is BARREN. If anything you use assets to upgrade there and considering the D group is good then if Quinn doesn’t end up coming it’s not the end of the world.
 
It’d also be one thing if we’re lacking on D but we aren’t. Sure obviously Quinn would be our best Dman but we’re set up to need very minimal changes on the backend for 5+ years and maintain a great D group the whole time. You don’t throw everything you have to bolster that strength even more. Our forward group beyond the stars is BARREN. If anything you use assets to upgrade there and considering the D group is good then if Quinn doesn’t end up coming it’s not the end of the world.
Canucks need a top C

There is no way they trade Q . Hughes without even contemplating wanting Hischier back
 
Okay first off I recognize the Quinn to Jersey thing as a possibility. However everyone is assuming he's going to bail at the first chance he gets. I could see it being just as likely that he signs a 3 year extension to hit free agency again at the same time as Jack and they could call their shot for where they want to play. Maybe they want to go play in Michigan and bring Detroit back into a golden age? One thing that will be interesting this off-season will be what Luke's new contract looks like.

I wouldn't just assume because there are 2 of them on one team that that is what happens. It might be most likely but not a sure thing. Quinn might also feel some obligation to the team that believed in him as a smaller defence man and want to help the team as much as possibly before moving on.
 
Canucks need a top C

There is no way they trade Q . Hughes without even contemplating wanting Hischier back

And the Devils never even entertain that. Nico also has a 10 team NTC so I doubt he entertains it either. You’re acting like the Canucks have the leverage here. The Canucks are the ones with their entire franchise hinging on one player and that one player outwardly wanting to go play with his brothers who are together long term on another team already. It’s not the end of the world if the Devils don’t trade for Quinn. It is the end of the world for the Canucks if they let Quinn walk.
 

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