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Proposal: Value of Quinn Hughes

WarriorofTime said:
If it's been made clear that Quinn wants to play with his brothers, then he's as good as gone. They need to trade him this summer for the best available package that a contender is going to offer up to get Q. Hughes on a great value contract for two seasons. Q. Hughes has zero trade protection, so he can go wherever he is told.

Canucks cannot mess around. Hoping around to re-sign him isn't going to happen. Hoping the team bounces back in a major way and is competing for the Cup next year isn't realistic either. They aren't going to bring two Hughes brothers in from New Jersey when New Jersey can wait around to sign Quinn as a UFA. Two years means he's still worth a premium package, but loses value every day you get closer to July 1, 2027.
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Problem is convincing the owner.
 
jackjohnson said:
Why would any other team trade for Quinn now if his intention is clear that he wants to play with his brothers??
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To win a Cup in the next two seasons. Besides, if that happens, then who knows. If he's already day dreaming about leaving in Vancouver, it's a pipedream he changes his mind.
jackjohnson said:
It will be either in Vancouver or New Jersey. There is no team in this league that will be able to offer assets for all 3 and get all of them.
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Plenty of teams would take Quinn Hughes for two seasons. 1st round picks get traded for guys to be there for a 1/3 of a season and a playoff run.
 
strattonius said:
He's the captain in a beautiful city with diehard fans. Maybe he will be a Canuck for life? Stop pretending you know his priorities. He's going to be given a blank cheque and when he signs his 8yr 120M contract Canucks fans can laugh at all the baseless speculation - much like Oilers fans endured with Draisaitl.
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A little tougher to assume he's staying now if your GM thinks he bolts!
 
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WarriorofTime said:
To win a Cup in the next two seasons. Besides, if that happens, then who knows. If he's already day dreaming about leaving in Vancouver, it's a pipedream he changes his mind.

Plenty of teams would take Quinn Hughes for two seasons. 1st round picks get traded for guys to be there for a 1/3 of a season and a playoff run.
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Canucks won't trade Hughes for just a 1st round pick. The return would be a top line center plus a top line winger. Show me a trade that ever had a 25 year old Norris winner and top 3 D being traded for cheap??
 
jackjohnson said:
Canucks won't trade Hughes for just a 1st round pick. The return would be a top line center plus a top line winger. Show me a trade that ever had a 25 year old Norris winner and top 3 D being traded for cheap??
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Yeah, I think that's a bit too ambitious. I don't see any team wrecking their top line even for a defensemen of that caliber. Especially in knowing he wants to go to one particular location. That won't help his trade stock either.
 
jackjohnson said:
Canucks won't trade Hughes for just a 1st round pick. The return would be a top line center plus a top line winger. Show me a trade that ever had a 25 year old Norris winner and top 3 D being traded for cheap??
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I didn't say they should trade him for "just a 1st round pick". I'm saying they should create a full scale bidding war to figure out who wants to pay a premium for two years of Quinn Hughes and deal with potential consequences of him walking in two years (or recouping quarters on the dollar of a little bit of value in 1.5 years when he's traded as a TDL rental). He wouldn't get traded for just a 1st round pick. If nothing else, teams would outbid each other on such a low value just to keep him away from their biggest competition for the next couple years.
 
But but Canucks fans said this didn't matter to Quinn! Only winning!!! (which he is not close to doing in VAN but anyway...)
 
WarriorofTime said:
I didn't say they should trade him for "just a 1st round pick". I'm saying they should create a full scale bidding war to figure out who wants to pay a premium for two years of Quinn Hughes and deal with potential consequences of him walking in two years (or recouping quarters on the dollar of a little bit of value in 1.5 years when he's traded as a TDL rental). He wouldn't get traded for just a 1st round pick. If nothing else, teams would outbid each other on such a low value just to keep him away from their biggest competition for the next couple years.
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Trust me when I say his trade value is probably higher than any player that has been traded in the past 20 years. To get a top 2 dman that won Norris and at age of 25 and still improving would need a kings ransom of epic proportions. He is the impact player that can put any contender over the edge into a guaranteed cup win category.
 
jackjohnson said:
Trust me when I say his trade value is probably higher than any player that has been traded in the past 20 years. To get a top 2 dman that won Norris and at age of 25 and still improving would need a kings ransom of epic proportions. He is the impact player that can put any contender over the edge into a guaranteed cup win category.
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That is why I think they should trade him versus let him walk in two years.
 
VetPresence said:
If Quinn is as good as Canucks fans proclaim, shouldn't he improve the Devils significantly?
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Likewise his two brothers and future Canuck teammates should help as well…I guess the Canuck fans opinions won him that Norris eh?
Now that I think of it, Quinn did say that the Canucks are “ one or two players” away from being a contender a couple of days ago… wow….
 
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jackjohnson said:
Why would any other team trade for Quinn now if his intention is clear that he wants to play with his brothers?? It will be either in Vancouver or New Jersey. There is no team in this league that will be able to offer assets for all 3 and get all of them. Either Canucks will screw NJD or vice versa. That's the only 2 possible scenarios I see.
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Because you get 2 years of a Norris Dman who can help you win a Cup.
 
If the Canucks GM is openly saying that then I would imagine it's more or less a foregone conclusion that he ends up in Jersey with his brothers. Questionable decision to broadcast it to the rest of the league though, it doesn't exactly strengthen Vancouver's negotiating position for a trade. His value is only going to diminish as the end of his contract approaches and now every other team is aware that he likely wouldn't re-sign with them either.

Quinn is such a special player that I doubt there's a single package the Devils could put together that Vancouver fans would consider 'fair'. It seems reasonable to assume that losing Quinn would send the Canucks down the rebuild path, so I'm guessing the deal would center around first round picks and younger players & prospects.

Any trade would almost certainly include Mercer and two of Silayev, Nemec & Casey to kickstart their defensive rebuild plus a 1st round pick. We'd probably have to include Palat for cap purposes too.
 
WarriorofTime said:
That is why I think they should trade him versus let him walk in two years.
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Oh for sure they will trade him if they cant sign an extension. Similar to how Petersson was almost traded for Necas before he agreed to an extension. But they won't trade Hughes now, that would be a career suicide for Alvin.
 
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