Avs44
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I imagine CBJ can get Clarkson to waive his NMC without issue. LV would never pick him.
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I imagine CBJ can get Clarkson to waive his NMC without issue. LV would never pick him.
Viqsi
"that chick from Ohio"
This. That's pretty much what's expected, and if he doesn't waive he'd likely be bought out first.
SupremeTeam16
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Can a CBJ fan shed some light on their likely expansion list. I'm guessing with the 4 NMC's they likely go 7-3 leaving 1 of Calvert/Atkinson exposed up front and 1 of Johnson/Savard exposed on the back end.
What about Wennberg and Karlsson are they exempt or do they have to be protected as well?
Also does anyone know if there will be a buyout window before the expansion draft?
What about Wennberg and Karlsson are they exempt or do they have to be protected as well?
Also does anyone know if there will be a buyout window before the expansion draft?
Viqsi
"that chick from Ohio"
The normal buyout window starts June 15, and the expansion draft is supposedly taking place the day before the entry draft, so yes, there would be a buyout window.
Most likely protection lists are as follows:
Saad
Jenner
Dubinsky (NMC)
Wennberg
Atkinson
Foligno (NMC)
Hartnell (NMC)
Exposed: Karlsson, Calvert, Clarkson (waived NMC), Anderson, some other prospects
Exempt: Bjorkstrand, Milano, Dubois, a few other prospects
Jones
Murray
Savard
Exposed: Johnson, Prout, some other prospects
Exempt: Werenski, a few other prospects
Bobrovsky (NMC)
Exposed: technically McElhinney, Korpisalo and Forsberg
There's an ongoing debate as to whether or not we should figure out a way to somehow protect Anderson. Personally, I don't think it's that much of an issue. By contrast, the Johnson/Savard debate is nonexistent; pretty much everyone is confident that Werenski can and ultimately will step up in his place.
Losing one of Korpisalo or Forsberg would suck, but both have been pretty good. Johnson seems the most vulnerable anyways because of cap hit and experience, but we'll see how this goes.
SupremeTeam16
5-14-6-1
The normal buyout window starts June 15, and the expansion draft is supposedly taking place the day before the entry draft, so yes, there would be a buyout window.
Most likely protection lists are as follows:
Saad
Jenner
Dubinsky (NMC)
Wennberg
Atkinson
Foligno (NMC)
Hartnell (NMC)
Exposed: Karlsson, Calvert, Clarkson (waived NMC), Anderson, some other prospects
Exempt: Bjorkstrand, Milano, Dubois, a few other prospects
Jones
Murray
Savard
Exposed: Johnson, Prout, some other prospects
Exempt: Werenski, a few other prospects
Bobrovsky (NMC)
Exposed: technically McElhinney, Korpisalo and Forsberg
There's an ongoing debate as to whether or not we should figure out a way to somehow protect Anderson. Personally, I don't think it's that much of an issue. By contrast, the Johnson/Savard debate is nonexistent; pretty much everyone is confident that Werenski can and ultimately will step up in his place.
Losing one of Korpisalo or Forsberg would suck, but both have been pretty good. Johnson seems the most vulnerable anyways because of cap hit and experience, but we'll see how this goes.
What do you mean by waved in relation to Clarkson? Like waived for purpose of a buyout? Because with the NMC I don't believe you can just waive him to the minors.
And also thankfully they can only take 1 player because you guys have quite a few solid players to expose.
^^^^^we expect Clarkson to waive his NMC for the draft because 0 chance he gets drafted and if he does he will get actual playing time maybe except for a permanent bench spot on the jackets. There is 0 chance we protect him.
Crede777
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He also probably doesn't want to piss off a team that's going out of its way to try to help him salvage his career.
KrisLetAngry
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Well to be honest, why would he care?
He will get paid if he doesn't move his clause. If they buy him out, he still gets paid.
Might not be all of his paycheck, but likely he gets bought out at some point anyway.
Keep his NMC, gets bought, signs another contract.
Crede777
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Because he might care about how the team he is on does and views him. Especially if it doesn't cost him anything to do something good for them.
punk_o_holic
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If Clarkson is injured can you still expose him in the expansion draft or are you forced to protect him? I thought I saw in the rules that Vegas can't pick an injured player so if that's the case, why allow a team to expose an injured player? If that rule is correct, screws Columbus over. Would have to protect him and depending when he is injured, can't buy him out.
Crede777
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IDK about being able to waive if injured, but if he misses 60 consecutive games to end the season then he's exempt.
ManofSteel55
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Nearly every team in the league could use David Savard. I wouldn't want to pay the price to get him.
Number1RedWingsFan52
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Wouldn't mind at all, If David Savard was dealt to Detroit. He would be a solid add for us and a big body to boot.
Chez Weber
King of the North
No, they're not. We already have 2 players to have the same role in Petry and Shaw.
Viqsi
"that chick from Ohio"
I'll give you Petry versus Savard w/r/t "good #2RHD", but Shaw is only comparable to Hartnell in that he's a winger with an agitating style of play. Hartnell has three inches and 35 pounds on Shaw, and is more comparable in production (and, admittedly, age) to Plekanec.
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Blow it up
Chez Weber
King of the North
I was talking in terms of play of style. Hartnell is a better producer but Shaw is younger and more versatile (can play all forward positions).
In the end Hartnell > Shaw and Petry > Savard
If CBJ is interested in Shaw + for Hartnell, I'm all up for it
Viqsi
"that chick from Ohio"
Meh, fair enough.
Yeah, I'm going to have to go ahead and say "no".
