Speculation: Valeri Nichushkin
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WhatWhat
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It depends on the contract they signed. I'm almost 100% sure in Nichuskins case he has an NHL opt out after this year. So he could return to Dallas next year.
With 11 points in 15 games in the KHL then 4 points in 3 games in the Euro Hockey tour I hope he comes back because he is playing really well
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No, this is not allowed under the CBA. The player would have to use his own money to buy himself out of his contract if that's what he wanted to do.
Most KHL contracts don't seem to have "out clauses" anymore, although the player and the team could file for mutual termination. I can't remember what Nichushkin's contract specifically stated.
If he has none of the above options available to him (buying out his own contract, mutual termination, out clause) then that's what he would have to do.
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Since he was not on a team's reserve list, and had his rights traded to a team, signed, and wanted to come to the NHL, would he need to go through waivers? Kind of like the situation with CGY/COL and ROR?
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No he would not require waivers. Because he left as an RFA his rights are retained by Dallas until he is 27 as long as the want to keep qualifying him. He is free to return after his contract and if I'm right he can come back next year with no issues
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I think he has to buy his own contract out.. Dallas own his rights for the next handful of years anyways
What would Dallas fans want for his rights? And how likely is it he is moved? I believe he had issues with Lindy?
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I meant more like if he was traded or offer sheeted, would he have to go on waivers to join his new team? Not Dallas.
If Dallas traded his rights, Nichushkin would probably demand Top-6 minutes and PP time on his new team.
If Dallas signed him prior to trading him, then his value probably goes up because his new team does not need to make any guarantees to get him in a deal with Dallas.
It's in Dallas' interests to sign him first, then decide what they want to do. Trading his RFA rights would only make sense if he is in his last year of retention and they want to get something for him.
If Dallas signed him prior to trading him, then his value probably goes up because his new team does not need to make any guarantees to get him in a deal with Dallas.
It's in Dallas' interests to sign him first, then decide what they want to do. Trading his RFA rights would only make sense if he is in his last year of retention and they want to get something for him.
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I assume it's very unlikely he gets moved because teams won't want to offer anything decent and Dallas is better off holding on to him unless they get blow away by an offer
Is issue with Ruff boiled down to ice time and not Ruff. He said he doesn't like plating for Ruff but time heals a lot of things. He thought he deserved top 6 and Ruff thought he didn't. At his current production in the KHL if he were to come back Ruff would be crazy to not give him top 6 minutes. At that point I think he doesn't mind Ruff as much because he is getting good minutes
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Hindsight being 20/20, with the injuries this year he would have gotten those top 6 minutes he wanted...
But even if he re-signs, coming off an injured 14-15, and sub-par 15-16, what is his value?
Maybe a B prospect and a 3rd? Maybe a 2nd straight up? I understand he has potential, but just curious as to what Dallas fans would expect.
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Lets make a list of returning forwards with NHL experience:
Benn
Seguin
Spezza
(so far so good)
Eakin
Roussell
(secondary players)
Janmark may never be back. Faksa, Ritchie, and Shore are playing a full NHL season for the first time. And nothing after that.
Nichushkin can put up 30 points for cheap, if you aren't trading a 30 point forward back there's no reason to move him.
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Considering how well he is doing in the KHL and I was one of the ones who thought he deserved top 6 minutes last year I wouldn't trade hikmfor anything less than a 1st and that's why he wont get moved. Teams won't want to offer that because of uncertainties and Dallas is better off keeping him unless they get a good offer. Counting his Euro Hockey tour stats he is at 15 points in 18 games over there. I'm pretty sure he has been his teams top scorer since going over and at his production he stands a decent chance at being their top scorer this year.
He is 21. If he plays the next 2 years at around a PPG in the KHL then it will be a similar situation to a highly skilled Russian wanting to come to the NHL but the difference is Dallas has his rights and no other team can jump in.
So to answer your question a 3rd+B prospect or a 2nd gives Dallas zero incentive to move him
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Dallas issued him a QO and he ****ed off by his own choice well before the season started. How exactly does that equate to Dallas discarding him ?
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This, although it would likely need to be accompanied by Dallas moving one of their 2 goalies to a team with cap space
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Yeah, I doubt Dallas will trade him. Right now Dallas doesn't look that great, so it's possible, that the next season Nichushkin can get back to his old team with a new coach, and all problems will be left behind.
