Ingram will cost $40M+ AAV. Cap situation looks crowded. Where does the 2025 1st round pick fit in? Strange strategy here.
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Why did the Raptors trade for Wiseman? Obviously,they didn’t want him as a player. Was it just for whatever “cash” was involved? (Presumably the cash would have to be greater than the cost of the buyout.) Or are there some cap implications for the Raptors that I am missing? Or were they just helping the Pacers out of a difficulty?
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saska sault
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I dont see the issue some have with the Ingram trade. Having his bird rights also allows them to use him in a sign and trade if their is not a fit. If he fits you have another piece going forward that doesn't change this years draft outcome by much, if at all. The NBA trade deadline is like free agency these days, you work with guys to facilitate trades to where they want to be, and it sounds like Ingram wanted to be in Toronto and helped the process along.
There could be issues with fit but I think Ingram is a step above what we have outside of Barnes, so if anything it pushes other players down into a slot they are likely more effective in.
1- Quickley
2- Barrett
3- Ingram
4- Barnes
5- Poeltl
Bench - Dick, Agbaji, Walter, Shead, Battle, Mogbo
Then who knows what kind of talent you get in the draft to move things around further. If they get an instant impact rookie, thats a relatively strong roster pending players health going forward and chemistry.
There could be issues with fit but I think Ingram is a step above what we have outside of Barnes, so if anything it pushes other players down into a slot they are likely more effective in.
1- Quickley
2- Barrett
3- Ingram
4- Barnes
5- Poeltl
Bench - Dick, Agbaji, Walter, Shead, Battle, Mogbo
Then who knows what kind of talent you get in the draft to move things around further. If they get an instant impact rookie, thats a relatively strong roster pending players health going forward and chemistry.
ULF_55
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Don't follow the Raptors a great deal, but just reading comments that Ingram could mess up their draft position.
Read he is injury prone, and Raptors think bad luck has played a part of those injuries.
Talk of limiting his impact because he'll cause the team to win?
Is this just fear mongering, or is he a really good player that would push them to more wins?
saska sault
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Ingram will 100 percent make the team better. He is a pure scorer with great reach. I think the plan is likely, they get him feeling 100 percent and slowly integrate him this year while load managing, giving games off... keep him feeling good going into the off season, allows the young guys to continue to get those minutes and the Raptors won't complain since they keep their chances of a high pick. Win-win for both Ingram and Toronto.
If he was fully healthy, he's playing now but it's kind of a move where maybe the situation was perfect, and that's why they picked him up now. You know the cost, you get the player and you don't wait until the off season. The NBA moves so fast, a few months from now maybe he isn't available or the price has risen. When you see a guy like Bridges goes for 5 x 1st rounders... Ingram at that cost is a steal.
Ingram is a way better defender than RJ and way better scorer in transition. He's a more versatile scorer as well. He's just a better basketball player than RJ.
He is injury prone, but the NBA is full with guys playing 55-60 games a year.
I have the expectation (and I'm not alone) that Ingram will barely play down the stretch of this season. He'll get re-signed and his value will come next year.
The pick will be pretty solid this year. Between 5-10.
Easy, they cut Boucher or trade him in the summer. That or they go into the tax. Can you explain how this is a strange strategy? When NO comes to you and says Ingram’s available you try to make the deal. Guy is super talented. We literally took two guys who weren’t in our long term plans, punted the Indy pick down to the 2nd round and got a 27 year old who averages around 22-25 points a game and can create his own shot everytime down the floor. What are we talking about here?
Raptors have a ton of flexibility to make trades. RJ has 2 years left on his deal, that wouldn’t be hard to move, Boucher, Poetl would be easy to move. I don’t see the doom and gloom.
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I think there is wink wink kind of deal where they said sit out the majority of the games but we’ll get you in here and there to see how you fit in
To anyone who would think Masai would want to sit around for 5 years in a scorched earth situation haven’t been paying attention
StrictlyCommercial
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Seems like it was just for the cash. Indy probably paid them more than the cost of Wiseman. Raps had space under the tax, so they took the free money.
