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Keep or Trade - Siakam

  • Trade

    Votes: 63 90.0%

  • Re-Sign

    Votes: 7 10.0%
  • Total voters
    70
  • Poll closed .
these contract numbers are literally insane. The NBA has become crazy and I don’t think the people running the teams actually know what theyre doing.

the bubble is going to have to burst soon.

in good faith I don’t think I can spend my money on anything NBA related again. Be that tickets, apparel, etc. it’s literally feeding the monster.
 
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fancy lad said:
these contract numbers are literally insane. The NBA has become crazy and I don’t think the people running the teams actually know what theyre doing.

the bubble is going to have to burst soon.

in good faith I don’t think I can spend my money on anything NBA related again. Be that tickets, apparel, etc. it’s literally feeding the monster.
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15 man roster. NFL is 52? NHL can't be a comparable, not as global of a sport. The revenue is astronomical for basketball, if the NHL ever made the same money ,players wouldn't be far behind. Not saying it's not wild, but at the same time... these guys are the .0001 that make it.
 
Schroder couldn't play Nurse's system, but he might work in this pick and roll heavy system.

We have a mess behind him, but hopefully we can develop something resembling a backup pg
 
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As VanVleet walks away from Raptors, only time will tell how big of a hole he leaves

The now very handsomely paid Houston Rocket will forever be a Raptor. In seven seasons he became woven into the franchise’s lore as much as Vince Carter, Chris Bosh, or Kyle Lowry.
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Fortunately the Raptors are trying to improve on a 41-win season that ended in the first play-in game last season. The bar isn’t particularly high at this stage.

But should they fail to hurdle even that there will be cause for plenty of questions, mainly: how did it come to pass that an all-star point guard in his prime and one of the most beloved and respected players in franchise history left Toronto for no return?

Why are the Raptors running this thing back at all?

It’s one thing for the Raptors to be relieved that they won’t be paying VanVleet $47 million when he’s turning 32 years old, but had they been alert to the possibility that someone else would be willing to cut that cheque, the wise move would have been to move VanVleet at the trade deadline. It’s hard to ignore that.

The Los Angeles Clippers were one team eager to acquire VanVleet in February, but the Raptors drove a hard bargain, trying to pry Terrence Mann and Ivica Zubac away. The Clippers were willing to do a deal centred around Luke Kennard and Brandon Boston Jr. Not the sexiest names but combined they shot 45.1 per cent from three for the Clippers, and the Raptors were one of the worst shooting teams in the NBA last year. With perfect hindsight, knowing that VanVleet was going to leave, they would be nice to have.

But it’s hard to see around every corner in the NBA, and the reality is the Raptors weren’t ready to break things up and sell them off for parts then — they saw VanVleet as part of their future — and they still aren’t.

The quick turn to Schroder shows it. That they traded for, and signed Poeltl shows it. A report that they’re now considering extending Gary Trent Jr. on an expensive long-term deal shows it.

There is parity in the NBA and the Raptors believe they are closer to the brass ring than everyone else might think.

They might be right. But it’s hard to believe they’re closer now that VanVleet is in Houston, but that’s how things shook out.

No matter what happens, VanVleet will be missed. Athletes as smart and solid and thoughtful don’t come along very often. He made an impact when he was here and will be remembered.

How much he’ll be missed when the ball goes up will be the question and if it turns out his absence is a hole the Raptors can’t fill, someone should answer for it.
 
Clark4Ever said:
Schroder has put up pretty good numbers throughout his career and he is bigger, more athletic, and better defensively than FVV. His playmaking ability and 3 point range are decent, but not as good as FVV.

For 2 years/26 million, he's a solid addition that will leave us with more cap flexibility to bolster the roster.
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Schroder at that contract is much better value than Fred at his. FVV and Schroder aren't far apart at all. If you gave Schroder free liberty to run the Raptors offence and jack up shots like FVV did...his #'s would shock some.
 
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fancy lad said:
these contract numbers are literally insane. The NBA has become crazy and I don’t think the people running the teams actually know what theyre doing.

the bubble is going to have to burst soon.

in good faith I don’t think I can spend my money on anything NBA related again. Be that tickets, apparel, etc. it’s literally feeding the monster.
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1. Less players, more money for each player
2. Your best players play 95% of the game...as opposed to 1/3 in the NHL.
3. Global sport
4. Most marketable athletes out of the major sports
 
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1. Less players, more money for each player
2. Your best players play 95% of the game...as opposed to 1/3 in the NHL.
3. Global sport
4. Most marketable athletes out of the major sports
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Not to mention HUGE tv deal.
 
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Lakers make all the right moves in first 24 hours of free agency

The Lakers didn't target the splashy, headline names affiliated with offseason approaches of yesteryear. They instead agreed to deals with players who fit.
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Bringing in Vincent took Dennis Schröder off the table for the Lakers after there was plenty of word that Los Angeles would try and retain Schröder with part of its mid-level exception that ended up going largely to Vincent. That seemingly turned into good news, however, for the German point guard, who went on to join Toronto in VanVleet’s stead, for two years and $26 million, according to sources.

Without VanVleet, the Raptors stand on precarious footing in the Eastern Conference. Re-signing Jakob Poeltl to a four-year, $80 million deal with a player option, league sources told Yahoo Sports, always seemed to be the likely outcome after Toronto sent a first-round pick to the Spurs for the veteran center before the trade deadline. Schröder was a valuable cog for the Lakers’ playoff sprint, but this will mark the second time Toronto lost a franchise favorite at point guard on the open market after rebuffing sizable offers for those players at the previous trade deadline.

After Toronto spurned offers for Kyle Lowry in 2021, the Raptors watched the All-Star who helped claim the only championship in franchise history walk to Miami by way of sign-and-trade, yielding just Goran Dragić and Precious Achiuwa in return. By the next deadline, after Dragić played only five games for Toronto, the Raptors had to use a 2022 first-round pick to turn Dragić into Thaddeus Young — choosing that avenue over acquiring Kristaps Porziņģis from Dallas. Flash forward to this season, and the Phoenix Suns were surely interested in acquiring VanVleet at the deadline, league sources told Yahoo Sports. The Clippers also registered strong interest in VanVleet, sources said, and were willing to include much of the pieces that Los Angeles may very well end up sending Philadelphia to acquire James Harden this summer instead. Toronto now has to stomach VanVleet leaving for Houston with nothing in return.

Maybe VanVleet’s exit will help create more on-ball opportunities for O.G. Anunoby, who changed agencies from Klutch Sports to CAA amid ongoing questions about his role in Toronto. Anunoby told representatives during meetings with prospective agents, according to people familiar with the situation, that he was searching for greater ball-handling and playmaking duties in advance of his upcoming contract talks. Without that chance in the Raptors’ offense under new head Darko Rajaković, there remains the ongoing possibility that Anunoby could request a trade from the franchise during what’s now the third season of a four-year, $72 million contract — which Anunoby relayed to potential agents he deemed was below his market value, but does include a player option before the 2024-25 season.

Even then, there remains the roadblock of Toronto communicating what rival front offices have consistently deemed unrealistic valuations for its players — such as Anunoby, All-Star forward Pascal Siakam and VanVleet himself — that would make any potential trade exit appear more fraught than meets the eye. These negotiations are never without the moving goalposts of leverage, but teams and players can often mistake time and the looming threats of the next transaction cycle as a factor in their favor. On other occasions, a team or player may simply have been burned by the ill-fated summer to reach the open market as a free agent or a team with money to spend.
 
fancy lad said:
the bubble is going to have to burst soon.

in good faith I don’t think I can spend my money on anything NBA related again. Be that tickets, apparel, etc. it’s literally feeding the monster.
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To make it worse from a local perspective, Raptors ticket prices are among the highest in the league. I took my son to a couple of games last season. After buying a pair of decent seats from the secondary market, parking, food, a couple of beers and merchandise, I spent close to a $1000 each time.

It really is getting ridiculous.
 
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