Proposal: UTAH - NYR

[Gurglesons]

Crouse for Kreider.

Power forward swap. Gives Utah someone to utilized on their net front PP. Gives Rangers a potential younger piece to build around and cap savings.

 

[Ezpz]

Any Kreider deal won't be favourable to the Rangers, he's washed. 5 assists in a full season playing with a 90 point winger is below replacement level bad. Scott Gomez 2012 level.

Crouse is almost that level but also paid half as much and can be played as a third liner.

So as a base it probably works but Rags would need to add something.

 

[A1LeafNation]

Rangers need to eat 50% and attach a 1st rounder.

 

[n8]

Any Kreider deal won't be favourable to the Rangers, he's washed. 5 assists in a full season playing with a 90 point winger is below replacement level bad. Scott Gomez 2012 level.

Crouse is almost that level but also paid half as much and can be played as a third liner.

So as a base it probably works but Rags would need to add something.

???? The only time Kreider is on the ice with Panarin is during the PP which is operating at 27th in the league this season. Those two never play together in normal situations as the both play LW. For a washed player to still score 20 goals is pretty terrible.

CK needs an offseason of rest (bad back all season) and change of scenery. He's lost all of the spark. I can think of only two goals this year he actually celebrated. The rest of them he's greeting teammates with this face

That said, 25 points is not great so his value is down but we are talking about a player who has 52, 36, and 39 goals in the previous 3 seasons.

Rangers need to eat 50% and attach a 1st rounder.

We are no where near that level of lost value. Keep you hyperbole in your stomach.

 

[Alluckks]

Rangers will need to attach at least a 1st to move Goodrow and 2 1sts to move Trouba

 

[Kupo]

Any Kreider deal won't be favourable to the Rangers, he's washed. 5 assists in a full season playing with a 90 point winger is below replacement level bad.

Let us know you don't watch any Rangers games without telling us you don't watch any Rangers games.

 

[n8]

Any Kreider deal won't be favourable to the Rangers, he's washed. 5 assists in a full season playing with a 90 point winger is below replacement level bad. Scott Gomez 2012 level.

Crouse is almost that level but also paid half as much and can be played as a third liner.

So as a base it probably works but Rags would need to add something.

What a minute. I missed this. You recall the Rangers got the Habs' TOP defensive product for Gomez, yes? I realize you might have blocked such a painful memory from your mind. Ranger fans do that all the time for the TB trade. And as bad of a trade as that was for MTL, it shows an off year doesn't tank someone's value quite they way you are portraying. Kreider has 147 goals in the last four seasons. He's got an average of 31+ goals per season in the last 7. He's fully capable of a PLD turn around.

 

[Ezpz]

What a minute. I missed this. You recall the Rangers got the Habs' TOP defensive product for Gomez, yes? I realize you might have blocked such a painful memory from your mind. Ranger fans do that all the time for the TB trade. And as bad of a trade as that was for MTL, it shows an off year doesn't tank someone's value quite they way you are portraying. Kreider has 147 goals in the last four seasons. He's got an average of 31+ goals per season in the last 7. He's fully capable of a PLD turn around.

2012 gomez was nearly four years after the trade. I know you're a grandpa but that Gomez got a compliance buyout.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Five assists for Kreider this year is hard to believe.

 

[pld459666]

I'd do the deal 1 for 1.

With Kreider, there is potential for 30+ goals and this year notwithstanding, hes almost a lock for 20+ assists.

Crouse doesn't help our speed game any, but he does help make the team a lot more tougher to play against physically.

Solid 3rd liner with 20/20 potential, although without PP time it's probably more like 15/15 potential.

Saves 2.2 million on the Cap.

I think the Rangers take the lesser player in Crouse along with the additional cap space.

 

[TGWL]

Both are bums.

 

[n8]

2012 gomez was nearly four years after the trade. I know you're a grandpa but that Gomez got a compliance buyout.

Ah, 2012. Gotcha. Sorry for bringing up traumatic memories. But also, that is some ridiculous hyperbole. Kreider is closer to 2009 Gomez.

 

[bernmeister]

Rangers need to eat 50% and attach a 1st rounder.

and we are not doing that

ck has back issues
either he fully recovers and commands a lot IF we move him
or he goes and stays on LTIR
no one risking to take him as is, even on discount, and we are not paying to move him

 

[Smitty426]

Let us know you don't watch any Rangers games without telling us you don't watch any Rangers games.

He's not wrong about favorable to NY. He's been awful this yr. And yes I do watch the Rags

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

Kreider is toast

But I won't be shocked if some stupid team still thinks of him as a positive asset. There are a lot of stupid teams, after all.

 

[Kupo]

He's not wrong about favorable to NY. He's been awful this yr. And yes I do watch the Rags

He claimed Kreider plays with Panarin. They’re both LW’s. Kreider has been shit this year but he doesn’t play with Panarin. He’s wrong.

 

[Smitty426]

He claimed Kreider plays with Panarin. They’re both LW’s. Kreider has been shit this year but he doesn’t play with Panarin. He’s wrong.

Gotcha I meant the shit part

 

[lanky]

Every single Utah trade proposal from another fanbase has Utah sending a fine young asset for an over the hill asset, without compensation.

I can assure you, that isn't the way Utah is planning to build a contender.