Confirmed with Link: Utah Mammoth sign Dimitri Simashev to 3-year ELC ($950k AAV)

[Summer Rose]

Is Salt Lake city building a new Hockey rink for the Mammoth...Olympics? Everyone knows they need one...its better than 4600 seat Arizona State rink but 11131 is just a tad better...

Delta Center is currently undergoing renovations this offseason as part of a multi-year process that will improve things for hockey. I'm not sure of the exact details of what will be ready in time for the 25-26 NHL season.

As for the Olympics, I heard something about Salt Lake City wanting the 2030 games, but they got bumped back to 2034 for some reason. Delta Center is listed as the "main venue" for hockey, and surely all the renovations will be done well in time for 2034. Since the Olympics use two venues for the hockey tournaments, the secondary venue will be the Peaks Ice Arena (with some renovations apparently planned), which was known as the "E Center" during the 2002 games, where it served as the primary venue for hockey.

 

[nosnhoj]

The former E Center is currently known as the Maverick Center and is where the Grizzlies (ECHL) currently play. I would guess that Peaks will only be used as a practice facility this time around with Delta Center and Maverick serving as the main hockey venues.

 

[Summer Rose]

Delta Center is currently undergoing renovations this offseason as part of a multi-year process that will improve things for hockey. I'm not sure of the exact details of what will be ready in time for the 25-26 NHL season.

As for the Olympics, I heard something about Salt Lake City wanting the 2030 games, but they got bumped back to 2034 for some reason. Delta Center is listed as the "main venue" for hockey, and surely all the renovations will be done well in time for 2034. Since the Olympics use two venues for the hockey tournaments, the secondary venue will be the Peaks Ice Arena (with some renovations apparently planned), which was known as the "E Center" during the 2002 games, where it served as the primary venue for hockey.

The former E Center is currently known as the Maverick Center and is where the Grizzlies (ECHL) currently play.

Whoops, got my venues mixed up, my bad.

I appear to not be able to read.

 

[Arizonatah]

@RayMartyniukTotems

Can't reply directly on mobile...

Based on his injury, missing so much time, and BA's tendency to overcook, I think Iginla's chances to make the NHL this season are 0.

 

[Heldig]

@RayMartyniukTotems

Can't reply directly on mobile...

Based on his injury, missing so much time, and BA's tendency to overcook, I think Iginla's chances to make the NHL this season are 0.

Agreed. He needs a full year in the Dub plus play in the WJHC. Plus (mentioned before) his club hosts the Memorial Cup next year so his team is guaranteed to play in the tournament.

 

[Jormungandr]

I hope Simashev and But have clauses where if they don't make the Utah Hockay Club in Sept-Oct they have the Option to go back and play in the KHL again instead of the step down AHL!!!It would be better for their development in my books...no sense being cannon fodder for AHLgoons!!!

No. If But doesn’t make the team, the AHL is infinitely better than him getting 3 minutes a night on Locomotiv again. That’s not even debatable.

 

[Schemp]

No. If But doesn’t make the team, the AHL is infinitely better than him getting 3 minutes a night on Locomotiv again. That’s not even debatable.

My opinion, but (the preposition) I think the clause was put in there for cultural adjustment reasons. I'd like to see him get at least 20 games in Tucson, but (the preposition) he can still prove me wrong in camp...

 

[TheLegend]

 

[MIGs Dog]

One could say that we are building a mammoth team in Utah...

How many times does Tyson Nash work in "Mammoth" to his limited vocabulary?

 

[Summer Rose]

How many times does Tyson Nash work in "Mammoth" to his limited vocabulary?

I’d be surprised if he does since it’s a word longer than a single syllable.

 

[TheLegend]

I’d be surprised if he does since it’s a word longer than a single syllable.

Just shorten it to "Mams".......

 

[Chel Guy]

Great to see this! Can't wait to see if BA and staff were right on Simashev and But.

 

[RayMartyniukTotems]

No. If But doesn’t make the team, the AHL is infinitely better than him getting 3 minutes a night on Locomotiv again. That’s not even debatable.

3 minutes...no way man he got more than that...maybe in 2023-24 not 2025

 

[Schemp]

Just shorten it to "Mams".......

Wow!!!

 

[Mangosteen]

I will never be happier to be wrong about Sim. 4th D is still very important.

 

[Arizonatah]

No. If But doesn’t make the team, the AHL is infinitely better than him getting 3 minutes a night on Locomotiv again. That’s not even debatable.

3 minutes...no way man he got more than that...maybe in 2023-24 not 2025

Per the KHL website, '24-'25 season (not including playoffs):

Simashev 15:57 TOI/G
But 11:47 TOI/G

That's more than I thought they were getting. I also thought that Simashev was getting fewer minutes than But.

 

[Jormungandr]

Per the KHL website, '24-'25 season (not including playoffs):

Simashev 15:57 TOI/G
But 11:47 TOI/G

That's more than I thought they were getting. I also thought that Simashev was getting fewer minutes than But.

You’re looking at the average of the regular season. Look up his ice time in the playoffs. He was a healthy scratch at times.

 

[Jormungandr]

3 minutes...no way man he got more than that...maybe in 2023-24 not 2025

No way man? He didn’t even play the last game. Healthy scratch at the end.

 

[RayMartyniukTotems]

No way man? He didn’t even play the last game. Healthy scratch at the end.

They knew he was heading outta town...its called punishment

 

[Jormungandr]

They knew he was heading outta town...its called punishment

So they punished one player but not the other for most of the playoffs? Makes sense.

 

[Arizonatah]

They knew he was heading outta town...its called punishment

I'd imagine that if either of these guys decided to go back to the KHL and signed a contract with any term, they'd be given more ice time. The KHL is supposedly notorious for not giving minutes to players they know intend to leave. A brand new 2 year contract might change that.

I'm not familiar with the European Clause and what limitations they'd have. I think it's all moot though. I'm not worried about these guys ever going back to the KHL.

 

[Jormungandr]

I'd imagine that if either of these guys decided to go back to the KHL and signed a contract with any term, they'd be given more ice time. The KHL is supposedly notorious for not giving minutes to players they know intend to leave. A brand new 2 year contract might change that.

I'm not familiar with the European Clause and what limitations they'd have. I think it's all moot though. I'm not worried about these guys ever going back to the KHL.

Alexander Nikishin averaged nearly 30 minutes a game in the playoffs despite everyone knowing he had 1 foot out the door.

Look, I’m not trying to talk negatively about But and Simashev. Love them as prospects. But there’s no need to sugarcoat the awful situation they could potentially be in if they return to Yaroslavl.

Simashev averaged just over 9 minutes a game in the playoffs while playing all 21 games. But averaged about 6 and a half for only 13 games.

 

[Arizonatah]

Alexander Nikishin averaged nearly 30 minutes a game in the playoffs despite everyone knowing he had 1 foot out the door.

Look, I’m not trying to talk negatively about But and Simashev. Love them as prospects. But there’s no need to sugarcoat the awful situation they could potentially be in if they return to Yaroslavl.

Simashev averaged just over 9 minutes a game in the playoffs while playing all 21 games. But averaged about 6 and a half for only 13 games.

The Nikishin scenario may be true (honestly don't know.) But the KHL does have a reputation for giving fewer minutes to players they know are leaving. Whether it's true or not I couldn't say, but I hear it often. Maybe the way Nikishin was handled is the norm, maybe not. I don't know.

I agree that going back to the KHL is bad for their development and especially bad for Utah. I don't see it happening, but anything is possible. They definitely need more ice time than they were getting.

Regarding minutes played both players had their minutes cut drastically during the playoffs. Why ignore the ATOI for the regular season like it didn't happen? Not sure why you say I shouldn't look at averages for the regular season and only focus on the playoffs? There's a bigger picture.

What is it that I'm not understanding?

Simashev's TOI/G Regular Season 15:57 TOI/G, Playoffs 9:43. But's dropped from 11:47 to 6:20.

 

[Jormungandr]

The Nikishin scenario may be true (honestly don't know.) But the KHL does have a reputation for giving fewer minutes to players they know are leaving. Whether it's true or not I couldn't say, but I hear it often. Maybe the way Nikishin was handled is the norm, maybe not. I don't know.

I agree that going back to the KHL is bad for their development. I don't see it happening, but anything is possible.

Regarding minutes played both players had their minutes cut drastically during the playoffs. Why ignore the ATOI for the regular season like it didn't happen? Not sure why you say I shouldn't look at averages for the regular season and only focus on the playoffs? There's a bigger picture.

What is it that I'm not understanding?

Simashev's TOI/G Regular Season 15:57 TOI/G, Playoffs 9:43. But's dropped from 11:47 to 6:20.

I didn’t say you shouldn’t look at regular season TOI totals. I said he was getting 3 minutes of ice time. Which he was at times. When the playoffs started both players were pushed to the “extras” position. Simashev the 7th defenseman, But the 13th forward/occasional healthy scratch. I would just prefer they not return to that environment. I would even prefer they get loaned to a team like Sochi like Michkov was, so that they can get plenty of ice time.

As far as the claim that players leaving get their ice time cut, you don’t have to look any further than Lokomotiv themselves. Oilers prospect Maxim Beryozkin averaged 17:40 a game and is widely expected to sign any day now. Not even the younger Surin was pushed further down than But was.

 

[Summer Rose]

I'd imagine that if either of these guys decided to go back to the KHL and signed a contract with any term, they'd be given more ice time. The KHL is supposedly notorious for not giving minutes to players they know intend to leave. A brand new 2 year contract might change that.

I'm not familiar with the European Clause and what limitations they'd have. I think it's all moot though. I'm not worried about these guys ever going back to the KHL.

From what I've gathered, the clause is that after 18 months, they can decline an assignment to the AHL and go back to Europe instead. I'm not sure how it works specifically on the latter part, but my best guess is that they might be able to sign a "pre-contract" to play there that causes the contract to become active if they decline an assignment to the AHL.

On the other hand, however, they could simply choose to accept the AHL assignment. It's purely up to them.