Confirmed Trade: [UTA/NJD] John Marino and 2024 5th (153OA) for 2024 2nd (49OA) and 2025 2nd

[Sabre the Win]

Buffalo could have matched this or beat this.

 

[Craig Ludwig]

Meh...Marino to me is a 5th/6th Dman on a good team, with a big salary. Surprised NJ got that much for him.

 

[Aoko]

Getting two seconds for him is pretty fantastic. And now they're gonna just sign Pesce.

 

[Smitty426]

Our prospect pool is pretty barren after the graduations. Getting picks to help the window longer term is smart.

Now play it smart in UFA to fill out the 4th line and a middle 6 winger alongside pesce

But.....use a 2nd + for Ross Colton! ; )

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

22-23 Marino was a stud, 23-24 Marino was a dud. The average play is somewhere in between which is a good 3/4 in the NHL. Definitely need to get him a defensive dmen since he's a rover type at his peak. Hope he does well in Utah.

As for the NJ perspective, it's clear that their management is focused on fits for their top dmen picks. Nemec/Hughes can carry the top 4 in regards to generating offense. Need to find those guys defensive partners in the mold of Devon Toews where they allow you to rover, can chip in offense and doesn't skip a beat in the offensive zone while being a rock defensively. Now obviously, Devon Toews is a stud but the logic of Colorado picking him off the Islanders is probably what the Devils are focused on as well. Silayev pick last night highlights that as well but he's 2-3 years away. A guy like Pesce will stop gap their top 4 until Silayev walks onto the roster in a few years to do the same job.

 

[MB3]

I'm just here for the Devils fans that claimed they would absolutely not get picks back for Marino.

(most) Devils fans: "there's no way he's traded for just a 2nd round pick"

Devils: Trade him for two 2nd round picks

(most) of you idiots: "HAHAHAHAHA DEVILS FANS SO STUPID"

 

[KevinRedkey]

Meh...Marino to me is a 5th/6th Dman on a good team, with a big salary. Surprised NJ got that much for him.

Marino is better than half the 2nd pairing RD in the league, but somehow he's a 5/6?

lol okay...

 

[Smitty426]

22-23 Marino was a stud, 23-24 Marino was a dud. The average play is somewhere in between which is a good 3/4 in the NHL. Definitely need to get him a defensive dmen since he's a rover type at his peak. Hope he does well in Utah.

As for the NJ perspective, it's clear that their management is focused on fits for their top dmen picks. Nemec/Hughes can carry the top 4 in regards to generating offense. Need to find those guys defensive partners in the mold of Devon Toews where they allow you to rover, can chip in offense and doesn't skip a beat in the offensive zone while being a rock defensively. Now obviously, Devon Toews is a stud but the logic of Colorado picking him off the Islanders is probably what the Devils are focused on as well. Silayev pick last night highlights that as well but he's 2-3 years away. A guy like Pesce will stop gap their top 4 until Silayev walks onto the roster in a few years to do the same job.

McNabb and to a lesser extent, Hague I'd pass on Dillon

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Utah woke up today and decided to make all the moves the jokes that were the Coyotes version, wouldn't make and upgraded their Defense in a massive way.

Impressive.

 

[Craig Ludwig]

Marino is better than half the 2nd pairing RD in the league, but somehow he's a 5/6?

lol okay...

If he is that good, which he is not, I think the Penguins and Devils would have hung on to him don't you think? I mean come on, the Pens traded him for Ty Smith...

 

[GeeoffBrown]

It'll be interesting to see how the league operates with this franchise trying to win hockey games instead of being a garbage dump for bad contracts

 

[KevinRedkey]

If he is that good, which he is not, I think the Penguins and Devils would have hung on to him don't you think? I mean come on, the Pens traded him for Ty Smith...

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If you think there's 40+ guys on this list better than him, then IDK what else to tell you. It's quite the ridiculous take. You're probably just not up to speed on the scarcity of 2nd pairing RHD (not meant to be an insult).

As for trade value - I suggest you look up Linus Ullmark and Tanner Jeannot. It's not always an accurate reflection of how good a player is. In this case, Tanev/Pesce/Roy certainly played a big role. A few teams will miss out on one of them and wish they had beaten Utah's offer.

 

[olli]

Why is New Jersey trading Marino, I thought they needed D

 

[hotcabbagesoup]

I'm a big fan of going after Walman tbh if we can. 2 years bridges very nicely to Silayev

We'll give you Walman for the low price of just one 2nd rd draft pick.

 

[Devils Trap]

Why is New Jersey trading Marino, I thought they needed D

Signing Pesce and Brenden Dillion apparently

 

[Craig Ludwig]

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If you think there's 40+ guys on this list better than him, then IDK what else to tell you. It's quite the ridiculous take. You're probably just not up to speed on the scarcity of 2nd pairing RHD (not meant to be an insult).

As for trade value - I suggest you look up Linus Ullmark and Tanner Jeannot. It's not always an accurate reflection of how good a player is. In this case, Tanev/Pesce/Roy certainly played a big role. A few teams will miss out on one of them and wish they had beaten Utah's offer.

No insult taken, appreciate your opinion. We'll agree to disagree. My feeling is that if an up and coming team like the Devils feel strongly about their chances in the playoffs in the next couple of years (which I think they should), they would hold on to Marino if he were that valuable.

 

[Bishop7979]

Hey Utah, can the pens offer you a slightly used graves? He and Marino were pretty damn good together....

 

[BKarchitect]

Value depends on which Marino that Utah gets.

Pesce will be an upgrade for New Jersey either way but I’d be clenched a little bit waiting for those contract details.

 

[NjdevilfanJim]

McNabb and to a lesser extent, Hague I'd pass on Dillon

Dillon would be good fit as well

 

[MVP Zacha]

No insult taken, appreciate your opinion. We'll agree to disagree. My feeling is that if an up and coming team like the Devils feel strongly about their chances in the playoffs in the next couple of years (which I think they should), they would hold on to Marino if he were that valuable.

As has been said over and over in this thread, because the Devils are apparently signing Pesce and are in on Dillon. There is a salary cap to consider.

 

[Adele Dazeem]

Buffalo could have matched this or beat this.

Price would certainly be higher.

 

[biturbo19]

How is that the best offer for a good Top-4 RHD on a solid value contract? That's insane.

He's a little inconsistent and seems to really need the right partner and system to thrive. But he's capable of playing a ton of quality, de facto matchup minutes. There are like a hundred and fifty teams that are looking for exactly that sort of RHD. And a couple second rounders gets it done? That's wild.

 

[dgibb10]

We'll give you Walman for the low price of just one 2nd rd draft pick.

Personally I would 100% do this. I think he's a good dman on a cheap contract, with term that walks us straight to Silayev. But I can't imagine any NHL team is the one to bite the bullet on paying for a guy who was a cap dump last week. Bad PR look

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

Is John Marino any good?

Two years ago, he was great. This past year, he kind of stunk. So the question is which player is Utah getting?

 

[Voight]

When we had him, absolutely. But we just traded him, so he's a bit of a scrub IMO now

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