USA all time team

[jigglysquishy]

Chico Resch wouldn't even make the USA B team. Might be the 3rd stringer on the USA C team.

 

[DaaaaB's]

Hellebuyck
Resch
Brimsek

Chelios. Leetch. Langway. Howe.
Kurvers. Iafrate. R Suter. Ramsey

Hull. Lafontaine. Ftorek. Kane.
Roenick. Mullen. Modano. Trottier.
K Tkachuk. Matthews. Stevens. N Broten

Resch? Kurvers? Ramsey? Ftorek? Are you serious?

 

[Gerulaitis]

Resch? Kurvers? Ramsey? Ftorek? Are you serious?

Yes

 

[DaaaaB's]

Yes

Ok, then please explain how you justify any of those guys being on this team.

 

[Gerulaitis]

Ok, then please explain how you justify any of those guys being on this team.

It's like saying you're very young without actually saying that

 

[jigglysquishy]

Chico Resch is indefensible on an all-time USA team. He was born and raised in Canada and only ended up playing for the US because he wasn't good enough to make Canada in 1981 (he didn't play in 1976).

He stunk it up with the US in 1984, being thoroughly outplayed by 19-year-old Tom Barasso.

Barrasso played against Canada, Czechoslovakia, and the USSR. Resch let in 4 goals against West Germany before letting in 5 against Sweden.

He only started 1 game in 1984. It's an incredibly weak time with team USA. Wasn't like he was good in the 1982 World Championship either.

It's just a very puzzling name. As I said, at best he's a USA C team goalie, but more realistically he's a USA D team coach.

 

[Michael Farkas]

It's like saying you're very young without actually saying that

What if someone has watched those players and still wants some discussion on this discussion forum...?

 

[DaaaaB's]

It's like saying you're very young without actually saying that

What a pathetic response. By your logic, no one on here knows anything about players from pre 1950 then. I'm definitely not very young and I don't need to have seen those guys play to know they don't deserve to be on this team anyhow.

 

[WarriorofTime]

It's like saying you're very young without actually saying that

You clearly checked out of hockey like fifteen years ago. Your suggestions are awful.

 

[Gerulaitis]

What if someone has watched those players and still wants some discussion on this discussion forum...?

You clearly checked out of hockey like fifteen years ago. Your suggestions are awful.

You're the one suggesting.
I picked the players I believe deserve to make the all time team

What a pathetic response. By your logic, no one on here knows anything about players from pre 1950 then. I'm definitely not very young and I don't need to have seen those guys play to know they don't deserve to be on this team anyhow.

It was a compliment. Don't be sad

 

[Gerulaitis]

What if someone has watched those players and still wants some discussion on this discussion forum...?

They're all good players.
Or maybe they want me to drop Ramsey for Craig Wolanski?

 

[jigglysquishy]

You could substitute Resch for someone who had a good game wearing a team USA jersey like Richter, Barrasso, Miller, or Quick.

 

[DaaaaB's]

It was a compliment. Don't be sad

It was arrogance not a compliment.

They're all good players.
Or maybe they want me to drop Ramsey for Craig Wolanski?

They're all good but not good enough to make this team. Chris Drury was good too and he's not making it along with a lot of other good players.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Brett Hull objectively played on Team USA. A list of "All Time Team USA Players" objectively includes him.

The Florida Panthers objectively play in the NHL. A list of "NHL teams" objectively includes them.

The analogy holds quite well.

The only only went to the US, because he couldn’t make team Canada.

 

[Gerulaitis]

It was arrogance not a compliment.


They're all good but not good enough to make this team. Chris Drury was good too and he's not making it along with a lot of other good players.

That is your opinion. I have mine

 

[seventieslord]

Tom Kurvers is the most absolutely mind-boggling pick I've seen in this thread. Just think of how many other defensemen the USA has produced that could make this team over him. How about Phil Housley for starters? Has the exact same strength and weaknesses as Kurvers, but is multiple degrees of magnitude better. And I don't know if I've ever paid Housley a compliment on this board.... Ever!

Ftorek is pretty far from contention, but he could maybe keep up with the rest of the guys. Ramsey is not that bad. Don't forget this guy received Norris votes despite producing very modest point totals. Some thought he was one of the three best defensive defensemen in the world.

 

[DaaaaB's]

Tom Kurvers is the most absolutely mind-boggling pick I've seen in this thread. Just think of how many other defensemen the USA has produced that could make this team over him. How about Phil Housley for starters? Has the exact same strength and weaknesses as Kurvers, but is multiple degrees of magnitude better. And I don't know if I've ever paid Housley a compliment on this board.... Ever!

Ftorek is pretty far from contention, but he could maybe keep up with the rest of the guys. Ramsey is not that bad. Don't forget this guy received Norris votes despite producing very modest point totals. Some thought he was one of the three best defensive defensemen in the world.

See, now there's at least an explanation as to why Ramsay was selected. That's all I wanted from the guy. I'd think a guy like Brian Rafalski amongst many others are more deserving than Kurvers. Ftorek was a good player but I don't see how makes the team ahead of guys like LeClair, Gaudreau, Pavelski, Wheeler, Amonte and many others.

 

[Gerulaitis]

Tom Kurvers is the most absolutely mind-boggling pick I've seen in this thread. Just think of how many other defensemen the USA has produced that could make this team over him. How about Phil Housley for starters? Has the exact same strength and weaknesses as Kurvers, but is multiple degrees of magnitude better. And I don't know if I've ever paid Housley a compliment on this board.... Ever!

Ftorek is pretty far from contention, but he could maybe keep up with the rest of the guys. Ramsey is not that bad. Don't forget this guy received Norris votes despite producing very modest point totals. Some thought he was one of the three best defensive defensemen in the world.

Oh I thought I've included Housley.

Ftorek is a tribute to the 70s. He did well in the WHA.

Someone mentioned Rafalski. Well, he could replace Kurvers or Ramsey. Or should I rather pick Reed Larson?

You could substitute Resch for someone who had a good game wearing a team USA jersey like Richter, Barrasso, Miller, or Quick.

Barrasso or Richter. Tough choice

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

Ramsey is not that bad. Don't forget this guy received Norris votes despite producing very modest point totals. Some thought he was one of the three best defensive defensemen in the world.

if we were making a team where we only cared about defensive ability, without any regard to offence, would ramsey make it?

chelios is the easy number one, langway two. suter (ryan, obviously) and hatcher (i don’t even need to say which one) are ahead of him, probably. but ramsey would be a mortal lock for the bottom pair right?

but who fills out the bottom pair? slavin? mcavoy? mark howe? then unkess i’m forgetting some guys, it’s a sizeable step down to the likes of craig ludwig and keith carney.

 

[seventieslord]

if we were making a team where we only cared about defensive ability, without any regard to offence, would ramsey make it?

chelios is the easy number one, langway two. suter (ryan, obviously) and hatcher (i don’t even need to say which one) are ahead of him, probably. but ramsey would be a mortal lock for the bottom pair right?

but who fills out the bottom pair? slavin? mcavoy? mark howe? then unkess i’m forgetting some guys, it’s a sizeable step down to the likes of craig ludwig and keith carney.

I'd say Langway, Chelios, Ramsey, Slavin, Hatcher, Suter, in that order.