Boston Globe UPDATED - TD Garden concession workers ratify contract, avoiding strike

[jgatie]

Bartenders don't serve drinks that people walk out of the establishment with that is a liquor store. Sit down service is different.

Why shouldn't the people at Market Basket get a tip as well? Put the 10/15/20 options on every transaction there.

Jacobs probably spends under $1 for the beers he charges $19 for.

In certain parts of the country, Key West, New Orleans, Las Vegas; bartenders most certainly can serve drinks that people can walk out of the establishment with. They even give you a plastic cup to pour it into. And yeah, I tip that bartender too, because I'm not a miserly cheapskate.

 

[BigGoalBrad]

Here’s the problem. By not tipping, you’re not moving the owner any closer to paying a living wage to his or her employees. You’re just shorting the worker.

I don’t know why it can’t just be factored in to people’s psyche when they receive service. You have a direct line to the front line employee in terms of their compensation. Like it or not, until further notice, that’s the system. So unless you’re out there fighting for raised wages for all these service people busting their humps for a poverty level base pay, accept that it’s part of the deal and have a tiny bit of generosity and/or basic humanity to help a brother or sister out.

No, I’m not saying you should be clicking 30% tip when you get a 6 beers for $120. But a few bucks scattered around to the various workers throughout the Garden? For Christ sake, if that’s all it takes for me to contribute in a tiny way to a positive environment jammed into a building with thousands of other people, I’m doing it. I hardly enjoy seeing people miserable.

And that's where I'm at hitting the lowest button or doing a custom 10 percent tip or a dollar or two at those checkout prompts.

Sit down 15-20%.

 

[CharasLazyWrister]

And that's where I'm at hitting the lowest button or doing a custom 10 percent tip or a dollar or two at those checkout prompts.

Sit down 15-20%.

Everyone doing “something”, whether it be a buck or more, would have a massive impact for all of those people.

I’m not going to argue that tipping server percentages on beers at price gouging levels is appropriate. As far as I can tell, tipping servers has a pretty well standard percentage (within a few points), while serving from at a concession is more wishy washy. I’m hardly going to scrutinize anyone for a percentage given the inherently overpriced nature of what is being served. I just think it’s important to consider the reality of that sort of job, and distribute accordingly, especially considering you’ve already likely paid hundreds just to step foot inside the building.

 

[Morris Wanchuk]

You don’t tip a bartender?

I tip bartenders but they dont make a full wage like the TD garden workers do.

 

[Ratty]

The term “tips” is an acronym for “To Insure Proper Service” There should be no question for compensating a waiter or waitress, for example, who must answer questions about the menu, must move back and forth between the table and the bar or kitchen, convey patrons wishes and advocate for them with workers who prepare the food and drinks.

I’ve experienced both American and European systems and come to the conclusion that both work for their constituents. I see the point for those who decline to tip a counter clerk at a convenience store for handing you a candy bar.

 

[Bridges31]

Great, now the beers are going to be $30

 

[TD Charlie]

And that's where I'm at hitting the lowest button or doing a custom 10 percent tip or a dollar or two at those checkout prompts.

Sit down 15-20%.

If everybody hit it for a buck, none of the Garden servers would complain.

I tip bartenders but they dont make a full wage like the TD garden workers do.

What if i told you there was a time that some nights i could work 8 hours and make 62 bucks before taxes?

 

[Alicat]

When I buy a coffee during the holidays, I hand a $20 thru the Drive-Thru window at Dunkin' and tell the High School kid/single mom/retiree working there to keep the change and "Merry Christmas". I love the look on their faces and a few times I've gotten a "You don't know how much this means!"

I guess I'm a narcissist.

When I worked at a coffee shop in college we had 3 ladies who would come in every morning for their sesame bagels toasted with butter and a medium light roast. They were rather demanding and not afraid to let you know how you messed up (according to them). They were notorious for tipping us maybe $.05 which drove us crazy. When Christmas rolled around each of us who worked the regular morning shift would get a card with $30 in it. I was so stunned the first time I received one and tried to give it back. The most vocal of the group told me I had earned it because I never gave them an attitude when they were apparently testing me and that I always had a smile on my face even when I burned their bagels. They are long gone and so is the cafe but 20 years later, I still remember these ladies and their generosity.

This is why we tell people to keep the change or pay for someone’s coffee especially during the holidays.

 

[Bocephus86]

So at $20/beer it's the responsibility of the customer to support the person pouring and not the business owner making a 1000% profit margin?

Below answered better than I - the owner of the business overcharging the customer isn't the workers fault. The tip is to offset the poor wages and that's the culture that has developed in this country. If you'd rather stiff the owner, don't patronize the business.

Here’s the problem. By not tipping, you’re not moving the owner any closer to paying a living wage to his or her employees. You’re just shorting the worker.

I don’t know why it can’t just be factored in to people’s psyche when they receive service. You have a direct line to the front line employee in terms of their compensation. Like it or not, until further notice, that’s the system. So unless you’re out there fighting for raised wages for all these service people busting their humps for a poverty level base pay, accept that it’s part of the deal and have a tiny bit of generosity and/or basic humanity to help a brother or sister out.

No, I’m not saying you should be clicking 30% tip when you get a 6 beers for $120. But a few bucks scattered around to the various workers throughout the Garden? For Christ sake, if that’s all it takes for me to contribute in a tiny way to a positive environment jammed into a building with thousands of other people, I’m doing it. I hardly enjoy seeing people miserable.

 

[BigGoalBrad]

Below answered better than I - the owner of the business overcharging the customer isn't the workers fault. The tip is to offset the poor wages and that's the culture that has developed in this country. If you'd rather stiff the owner, don't patronize the business.

I mean the workers get tipped percentage wise they don't seem to complain about the gouging.

A tab that used to be $100-110 so $120$130 out the door is now over $150. Leave a tip and it's $200. It sucks.

And I know if I don't like it I don't have to support local restaurants and they can just close.

I bought a 750ml of rum for $8 last week. Trader Joe's it was good. So there is no cost increase to the owners of these places selling drinks for $20 each. I struggle with alcoholism and have always tried to keep it on check by only drinking outside of my house and supporting local establishments but that is no longer an option really.

 

[Bocephus86]

I mean the workers get tipped percentage wise they don't seem to complain about the gouging.

A tab that used to be $100-110 so $120$130 out the door is now over $150. Leave a tip and it's $200. It sucks.

And I know if I don't like it I don't have to support local restaurants and they can just close.

I bought a 750ml of rum for $8 last week. Trader Joe's it was good. So there is no cost increase to the owners of these places selling drinks for $20 each. I struggle with alcoholism and have always tried to keep it on check by only drinking outside of my house and supporting local establishments but that is no longer an option really.

I heard you on the percentage, for sure. For counter service bartenders serving drinks, I tend to do 1 or 2 bucks a drink, regardless of the drink price ($1 for a beer / wine, $2 for a cocktail that takes some time).

I also struggle with the booze, do you're best to keep it out of the house, didn't mean to be hard on you RE tipping. I'd prefer we had a culture were it was the norm, we just don't for whatever reason.

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

Bartenders don't serve drinks that people walk out of the establishment with that is a liquor store. Sit down service is different.

Why shouldn't the people at Market Basket get a tip as well? Put the 10/15/20 options on every transaction there.

Jacobs probably spends under $1 for the beers he charges $19 for.

If you want to go there with it, the people serving beer at The Garden arent serving people that walk out of the establishment either. The Garden is the establishment, the beer stands are the bars

 

[jgatie]

The term “tips” is an acronym for “To Insure Proper Service”

That's a myth. The term "tip" for a gratuity goes back to the 1600's. Acronyms didn't come into general use until the 20th century.

 

[Donnie Shulzhoffer]

So we have learned in here that tipping is bad and drinking by the wood pile is good.

 

[BB79]

I would generally always tip a buck or two per drink when I used to buy drinks or food at games. With food as well.

I stopped buying food and drink years ago though, prices have become insane to the point that it basically ends up doubling the cost of your ticket by the time the night is over. I enjoy going to a local restaurant before the game instead now. If I'm going to spend that much I might as well hit the Ruth Chris for a nice steak dinner

 

[Number8]

My dream.

Workers strike.
Fans stop buying tickets.
Bruins miss playoffs.
Jacob’s sells.

As Wally says …. razor vs. replacement blades.

I don’t begrudge JJ treating the Bruins as a business above all else. It’s his money, his team.

But my Kingdom for an owner who lives and dies for the B’s like so many here. Wouldn’t that be amazing.

 

[Joe Zanussi]

Can’t believe this has gone this far without the scene from Reservoir Dogs being inserted. I’m too lazy to go get it. But if you all agree to throw a buck my way, i’ll get crackin.

 

[TD Charlie]

Can’t believe this has gone this far without the scene from Reservoir Dogs being inserted. I’m too lazy to go get it. But if you all agree to throw a buck my way, i’ll get crackin.

My favorite movie. First thing i thought of the other day too

 

[Troublesome 85]

Bartenders and servers make shit.

Looks like amazon is talking bout unionising too.

Im all for people getting the most money they can out of corporations

 

[Fenway]

 

[Troublesome 85]

Barteners get paid $10 at my job as back of the house I almost get double.

Which is why ill never be front of the house.

 

[GordonHowe]

TD Garden union votes to accept new contract, avoiding potential strike

Around 600 TD Garden employees reached an agreement with parent company Delaware North on Sunday, their bargaining organization said.

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