Sens social media is covering the scouting meetings and it started with Staios heaping praise on them instead of firing them.
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Sens social media is covering the scouting meetings and it started with Staios heaping praise on them instead of firing them.
BondraTime
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The scouts, for the most part, are fine. They are following a set mandate.
It's the mandate and the head that needs to be changed, desperately.
Tuna99
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His name in french means "winner".....sooooooo......
Tuna99
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We have good scouts, they havent had top picks recenty to prove it but when I look at our starting lineup I love our scouts. Best team ever assembled in Ottawa and mostly done through the draft.
Johnny Hanson
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Matt turek hired. Brother of Amy turek, former team Canada women’s player. Her son, Jake O’Brien, my is draft eligible. Current Branford bulldog. The story writes its self here
Where are we getting a top 10 pick to finish this story?
You mean his player development was subpar?
BigRig4
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Damn I was hoping he’d can them on instagram live
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Tuna99
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He’s also a Right Shot C with nice size who could be moved to the wing like Greig has been
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Senator Stanley
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This article has a lot of praise for Turek.
Matt Turek's Brantford Bulldogs departure still a mystery
Almost 72 hours after the Brantford Bulldogs released a statement indicating the team and Matt Turek were parting ways, it’s still a mysterywww.brantfordexpositor.ca
Sitting down for any amount of time with Turek, it’s quite clear he has a brilliant hockey mind. Smart, astute and calculating, every detail seems to be thought out with nothing left to chance.
Walking into Turek’s office, the preparation and work he put into his job was evident.
One of the first things you’d notice walking into Turek’s office at the civic centre wasn’t pretty pictures or great art on the walls but a very large whiteboard with colour coded details on every player on every team in the league and every team’s draft picks, all listed in dry erase marker.
It wasn’t that the list was there for show. Turek knew the names and details on the players as well as each team’s draft picks. Anytime you sat with Turek, whether it was in his office or anywhere else, you learned something.
This isn't a shot at Turek - he could be great and I hope he is - but I find pieces like this funny. Where a writer describes how a person does their job, it's basically how you would assume anyone does this job, and yet they extrapolate from this that the person must be especially good at the job.
Like, apply this technique to a mechanic at an auto body shop. "Walk into their shop and they have all this equipment and tools. But they don't just have the equipment, they know what it all is! And if you ask them about how a car works, I bet you'll learn something." None of this is evidence that they're a particularly good mechanic. It's just evidence that they are a mechanic.
But anyway, his resume seems good.
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Grade: B
Love most of his moves except for one... I simply don't understand the praise Staios gets for trading:
Jakub Chychrun: 26yo, 6ft2, 220lbs, 20+ goals, 50+ points scoring, grade A skating defenseman
for
Nick Jensen: 34yo, 6ft, 195lbs, 2-3 goals, 20 points scoring, grade B skating defenseman + 3rd round pick
We can talk about fit all we want (and it is true that a healthy Jensen fit in well with the group this year), it was still a terrible move from a value perspective.
In fact, the deal was reminescent of those Dorion would gleefully make and one a team with as little assets as the Sens could seldom afford to lose.
We gifted Washington a bonafide #1/#2 defenseman for a #4/#5 guy a couple of years and/or injuries away from retirement.
That same summer:
- Brandon Montour signed for 7.15M
- Matt Roy for 5.75M
- Brett Pesce for 5.5M
- Chris Tanev for 4.5M
- Alex Carrier for 3.75M (later traded for Justin Barron)
- Sean Walker for 3.6M
- Ilya Lubushkin for 3.25M
- Jacob Middleton for 4.2M
- Brendan Dillon for 4M
- Alec Martinez for 3.85M
- Nate Schmidt for 800K
Etc., etc.
Meanwhile, over the following weeks:
- Brian Dumoulin was acquired for a 4th
- Cody Ceci and a 3rd were traded for Ty Emberson
- Olli Maata was moved for a 3rd
- Cam Fowler and a 4th were exchanged for Jeremie Biakabutuka and a 2nd
Etc., etc.
Can't help but think Staios jumped the gun and grossly overpaid for a player he liked.
But then, months later, Norris for Cozens + (likely high) 2nd round pick happened and sort of canceled out the bad Chychrun trade, as a fully acclimated and fully developed Cozens will be paying dividends for the franchise for years to come.
Love most of his moves except for one... I simply don't understand the praise Staios gets for trading:
Jakub Chychrun: 26yo, 6ft2, 220lbs, 20+ goals, 50+ points scoring, grade A skating defenseman
for
Nick Jensen: 34yo, 6ft, 195lbs, 2-3 goals, 20 points scoring, grade B skating defenseman + 3rd round pick
We can talk about fit all we want (and it is true that a healthy Jensen fit in well with the group this year), it was still a terrible move from a value perspective.
In fact, the deal was reminescent of those Dorion would gleefully make and one a team with as little assets as the Sens could seldom afford to lose.
We gifted Washington a bonafide #1/#2 defenseman for a #4/#5 guy a couple of years and/or injuries away from retirement.
That same summer:
- Brandon Montour signed for 7.15M
- Matt Roy for 5.75M
- Brett Pesce for 5.5M
- Chris Tanev for 4.5M
- Alex Carrier for 3.75M (later traded for Justin Barron)
- Sean Walker for 3.6M
- Ilya Lubushkin for 3.25M
- Jacob Middleton for 4.2M
- Brendan Dillon for 4M
- Alec Martinez for 3.85M
- Nate Schmidt for 800K
Etc., etc.
Meanwhile, over the following weeks:
- Brian Dumoulin was acquired for a 4th
- Cody Ceci and a 3rd were traded for Ty Emberson
- Olli Maata was moved for a 3rd
- Cam Fowler and a 4th were exchanged for Jeremie Biakabutuka and a 2nd
Etc., etc.
Can't help but think Staios jumped the gun and grossly overpaid for a player he liked.
But then, months later, Norris for Cozens + (likely high) 2nd round pick happened and sort of canceled out the bad Chychrun trade, as a fully acclimated and fully developed Cozens will be paying dividends for the franchise for years to come.
BigRig4
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His back was against the wall. Everyone in the league knew he had to deal Chychrun. Same reason we got Ullmark for relatively cheap too.
Loach
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Didn't Staois say he looked at UFA defencemen and the price was too high? So for all those guys listed, you could probably tack on an extra 1m/year and a couple years term to the contracts. Maybe he could have traded Chych for a better return, but the options to replace him on the market weren't good for the health of the franchise.
I don't trust any of our scouts. The idea of keeping this pick, to draft another Boucher and risk the 2026 pick, is crazy to me.
I think it was more that they didn’t want to come here. At the very least it was said we tried to get Tanev, Montour, Pesce and Roy.
Loach
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I think you can live with an overpay. Not much you can do if they just flat out say not interested though. It was probably more of the latter.
Loach
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Nah. I think they didn't want to over pay. 'Cause that's what was said. I think this management team has a clue about how to run a team. You still be on the Dorion train. You're trying to get it. I like that about you.
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Loach
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Isn't Staios the "head"? Does Staios not set the "mandate"?
