robsenz
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Management UPDATE: Steve Staios GM and POHO, Dave Poulin Senior VP of Hockey Operations
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Tuna99
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Amadio and Cousins yes, I think Perron stays just because it’s close to home and I think he still can be a 4th liner for another year. Maybe even give him an A.
Nac Mac Feegle
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...is it too late to bring back the I ain't even mad avatars?
At this point, all we can do is laugh.
At this point, all we can do is laugh.
robsenz
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but like an unstable persons kind of laugh.
Senscore
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Neil Patrick Harris
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Hell, I'd already forgotten people like Parker Kelly, Dylan Gambrell, and Zach Sanford were on this team. What's three more names, really?
robsenz
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Puikiou
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Same hell we were in when the current iteration of "the rebuild" started. Had to give up a 1st (4th overall pick) in year 1, just like we'll have to give up a 1st this season or next. In other words, we're handcuffed from the very beginning... Again.
That and so many missed/wasted opportunities, signings and trades set us back years. E.G. Detroit trades long-time player Tatar (underperforming with 28 pts in 62 games) to Vegas and lands a 1st, a 2nd and a 3rd. Montreal trades their captain to Vegas (locker room friction + declining performance at the time already) and lands Suzuki. Ottawa trades their future captain to Vegas (best two-way winger in the league, well respected with an incredible brain and stick). They land Brännström.
This organization genuinely feels cursed and where other fandoms seem to get enjoyment out of the teams they support, Ottawa feels like nothing but a bane. When you actually detach and watch this team play with (somewhat) neutral eyes, you can tell the players don't care. Not one bit. Most of the core got paid before they accomplished anything in the NHL and few won any major team championship in their respective junior leagues. All they know is well rehearsed lip service. They all say they want to win, yet play nothing like individuals or a team that wants to win. Just try watching other bottom dwellers. They lose out of a lack of talent, rarely a lack of will. It's the complete opposite with us.
Players that have had meaningful team or individual success in the NHL come to Ottawa, suck, leave with statements hinting at something being rotten in Denmark, then go on to resume their stellar play with other organizations. It's a damning indictment of the culture built around and fostered by the Tkachuks and Chabots in the nation's capital.
Let alone cohesive team play, even an honest, consistent 60 minutes effort is too much to ask for this iteration of the Sens. They seldom start on time because "the other team has a say...". When they do feel like it an press at the end, "the goalie made the saves". When they're not tired, they're injured. And when they're not injured, they "didn't get the bounces".
Spell the word "expectations", even with the bar set as low as it can be and the whole team implodes. However, the second there's nothing left on the line, it's all loosy-goosy and buddy-buddy with rehearsed lip service about the future.
It starts at the top and our captain is an immature child that was handed everything from day 1. Alfie, Spezza, Karlsson, Tkachuk. One of those is not like the others. No coaching has ever truly held this group accountable and no management group has had the backbone to truly bring forth meaningful change. it's all been work around the periphery, with often mediocre results.
"The envy of the league", "FYOUS", "Best in class", always sweet promises with nothing to back them up when time comes due. Yet you're expected to commit time and money and be happy about it all.
Yesterday vs LA was the first time in a while the game was on, but I couldn't force myself to consistently watch it, wire to wire. That's because the outcome was clear from the moment and the way they came out at puck drop. It's the same sickening movie. It's been the same sickening movie for as long as this core has been together. If there was a way to truly detach, give up and turn in the fan card, I would. This fanbase seems to care more about it all than coach, management and especially the players. Yet, at this point in time, the fanbase is the one entity that would be served better elsewhere with its time and money.
That and so many missed/wasted opportunities, signings and trades set us back years. E.G. Detroit trades long-time player Tatar (underperforming with 28 pts in 62 games) to Vegas and lands a 1st, a 2nd and a 3rd. Montreal trades their captain to Vegas (locker room friction + declining performance at the time already) and lands Suzuki. Ottawa trades their future captain to Vegas (best two-way winger in the league, well respected with an incredible brain and stick). They land Brännström.
This organization genuinely feels cursed and where other fandoms seem to get enjoyment out of the teams they support, Ottawa feels like nothing but a bane. When you actually detach and watch this team play with (somewhat) neutral eyes, you can tell the players don't care. Not one bit. Most of the core got paid before they accomplished anything in the NHL and few won any major team championship in their respective junior leagues. All they know is well rehearsed lip service. They all say they want to win, yet play nothing like individuals or a team that wants to win. Just try watching other bottom dwellers. They lose out of a lack of talent, rarely a lack of will. It's the complete opposite with us.
Players that have had meaningful team or individual success in the NHL come to Ottawa, suck, leave with statements hinting at something being rotten in Denmark, then go on to resume their stellar play with other organizations. It's a damning indictment of the culture built around and fostered by the Tkachuks and Chabots in the nation's capital.
Let alone cohesive team play, even an honest, consistent 60 minutes effort is too much to ask for this iteration of the Sens. They seldom start on time because "the other team has a say...". When they do feel like it an press at the end, "the goalie made the saves". When they're not tired, they're injured. And when they're not injured, they "didn't get the bounces".
Spell the word "expectations", even with the bar set as low as it can be and the whole team implodes. However, the second there's nothing left on the line, it's all loosy-goosy and buddy-buddy with rehearsed lip service about the future.
It starts at the top and our captain is an immature child that was handed everything from day 1. Alfie, Spezza, Karlsson, Tkachuk. One of those is not like the others. No coaching has ever truly held this group accountable and no management group has had the backbone to truly bring forth meaningful change. it's all been work around the periphery, with often mediocre results.
"The envy of the league", "FYOUS", "Best in class", always sweet promises with nothing to back them up when time comes due. Yet you're expected to commit time and money and be happy about it all.
Yesterday vs LA was the first time in a while the game was on, but I couldn't force myself to consistently watch it, wire to wire. That's because the outcome was clear from the moment and the way they came out at puck drop. It's the same sickening movie. It's been the same sickening movie for as long as this core has been together. If there was a way to truly detach, give up and turn in the fan card, I would. This fanbase seems to care more about it all than coach, management and especially the players. Yet, at this point in time, the fanbase is the one entity that would be served better elsewhere with its time and money.
KevinRedkey
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- Jan 22, 2010
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My Staois grades so far:
A+ / Gaudette signing
A / Yakemchuk pick
A- / Ullmark trade
B+ / Chychrun/Jensen trade
B / Gregor signing
B- / Pinto bridge deal
C+ / Ullmark signing (need more time for this one)
C / Tarasenko trade
C- / Cousins signing
D+ / Green hiring
D / Perron signing
D- / Amadio contract (after unloading Joseph)
F / Not firing DJ Smith right away
A+ / Gaudette signing
A / Yakemchuk pick
A- / Ullmark trade
B+ / Chychrun/Jensen trade
B / Gregor signing
B- / Pinto bridge deal
C+ / Ullmark signing (need more time for this one)
C / Tarasenko trade
C- / Cousins signing
D+ / Green hiring
D / Perron signing
D- / Amadio contract (after unloading Joseph)
F / Not firing DJ Smith right away
not impressed so far. Said all summer that we should be adding a center as young centers struggle and we needed another defensemen. We traded a pick to get rid of Joseph to add Amadio? That's a Dorion special
BonHoonLayneCornell
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I see a lot of mentions of names Chychrun, Joseph, Brannstrom, etc. Hard to get on board with them as solutions when the team sucked with them just the same, arguably worse if going by the underlying numbers. Doesn't feel like a solution to have just hung on and run it back, but maybe I'm wrong. Definitely have to eat some crow on SS's decisions this summer, it looked reasonable to me. Amadio has almost doubled Joseph's goal pace over the last 3 years prior to this one, including exceeding that pace in the playoffs. It didn't seem that insane and the Amadio signing thread is full of praise at the time. He has cratered in Ottawa.
King Karlsson
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I would love to get handed an interim role and then hire myself after conducting a "search"
Hated the Staios GM move, hated his signings, hate the state of this team. They are in serious trouble and I'm not even sure of the way out of it
Hated the Staios GM move, hated his signings, hate the state of this team. They are in serious trouble and I'm not even sure of the way out of it
Sensinitis
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I do think if our bottom pair was Kleven-Brannstrom we would be better off.
Especially now that Zub is injured, we've seen Brann step up in the past and he would have been able to play up the lineup.
Waste of an asset imo.
Especially now that Zub is injured, we've seen Brann step up in the past and he would have been able to play up the lineup.
Waste of an asset imo.
Senator Stanley
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We weren't going to qualify him at $2M, or whatever it exactly was. And once he was a free agent, I don't think there was any way he was coming back to Ottawa. The guy needed to be in a different market without the proudest day/Mark Stone cloud over him.
hes easily worth 2mill. Obvious move was to buy out Hamonic and use the Perron salary more wisely to beef up the defense.
As a bottom pairing guy he is better than whatever we are putting out on a nightly basis. Even if you don't like Brannstrom going into the season by handing Kleven a spot just doesn't make a lot of sense esp with JBD and Hamonic being his pairing options
BondraTime
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He wouldn't be in the league if he was paid 2 million
The problem is that after 8 years of rebuilding we have exactly one good NHL defenceman that we acquired via trade/UFA signing on this roster.
No one would ever be talking about Erik Brannstrom again if there is an ounce of competence here. He’s never been what we need and he’s still not.
No one would ever be talking about Erik Brannstrom again if there is an ounce of competence here. He’s never been what we need and he’s still not.
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