Underated bottom six players

harmonica

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some analytics guys have him up in selke contention

These guys need to get off their computers and watch more games. The guy has been dragging down his line all season. Go check out any game day thread in the Penguins section to see what people are saying who watch every game.

ZARs stats are largely representative of who he has been playing with.
 

Sugi21

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Ok everyone... take off your rose coloured glasses and answer again!
 

KlefDown

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These guys need to get off their computers and watch more games. The guy has been dragging down his line all season. Go check out any game day thread in the Penguins section to see what people are saying who watch every game.

ZARs stats are largely representative of who he has been playing with.


it's just same guys who think Drai should be ~30 in Hart ranking so yeah..
like I get is people argue MacK/Eichel over Drai but to not have Drai in your top 3/4 is criminal
 

harmonica

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it's just same guys who think Drai should be ~30 in Hart ranking so yeah..
like I get is people argue MacK/Eichel over Drai but to not have Drai in your top 3/4 is criminal


Not even sure how he is considered Selke when he is an offensive black hole.

If there was a purely defensive award based on advanced stats, sure he might win something.
 

GeeoffBrown

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it's just same guys who think Drai should be ~30 in Hart ranking so yeah..
like I get is people argue MacK/Eichel over Drai but to not have Drai in your top 3/4 is criminal

Whatever model they are using is definitely a terrible predictor of who will win the Selke. Will those guys even get any Selke votes? Maybe Bjorkstrand?
 

Czechboy

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I agree with Archibald... late bloomer and seems to do everything right. Hopefully he gets extended very soon as he is starting to look like a brilliant add by Holland.
 

Volica

Papa Shango
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Doc Ryan.
Cane fans were all laughing at Calgary picking this guy up. Turns out, he's really, really, really good. Has been a dominant 3rd line C for us.
 

The Winter Soldier

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That's not the point.

People acknowledged in 2015 that Cizikas is good.

Who underrates Cizikas?
I don’t think Cizikas is overrated. But thanks I understand the context of your post now. Good to know some value him around The NHL other than isles fans.
 

Machinehead

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Jan 21, 2011
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I don’t think Cizikas is overrated. But thanks I understand the context of your post now. Good to know some value him around The NHL other than isles fans.
Oh yeah, it's pretty much consensus from what I've seen that he's effective.

Not bottom six, but for underrated on the Islanders, I'd go with Pulock or Toews. Especially Toews.
 
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Al Lagoon

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Joel Eriksson-Ek. Apparently he gets under players skins to draw penalties and is a pest to play against.

Plus the dude is a plus player drawing the other team's top line when possible.

He is pacing for 40 points with no power play time, and the toughrst minutes on the Wild. If he can get his fo % over 50, he could be a Selke candidate.
 
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RememberTheRoar

“I’m not as worried about the 5-on-5 scoring.”
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That's me in the corner


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LMFAO

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Gotta love Sheahan and Archibald in Edmonton!

Plz resign both:D:D:D
 

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