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What are your thoughts on him, I didn't really get to watch much of him when he played, but I was watching some youtube videos with him don't think I ever seen some one targeted as much as him...
Marchment was a lot dirtier, I thought. Ulfie got extra hate as the first truly dirty European NHLer
I've always wondered about the Neely hit, but never really had the courage to ask since so many people were up in arms about it...am I the only person who thinks that Ulf never stuck out his leg, and the knee-on-knee part of the hit was because Neely was trying to sidestep an open-ice hit? Everyone crucifies Ulf for being a dirty player (often times rightly so), but I feel that on that particular play he wasn't completely at fault.
Knee on knee hits are so hard to determine. Marchment literally driving Nieuwendyk's knee into the boards in the 1998 playoffs was premeditated. He had plenty of time to ease up and such simply finish his check, but he didn't. Ulf and Neely looked almost more like a collision than a deliberate attempt. Honestly, even when it looks like a deliberate attempt you still have to have some sort of defense for the attacker. If a player with the puck is going to get by you and the only move you have is to stick your leg out and trip him then that just might logically be a natural reaction. Its happened before. But I do get why Ulf is hated in Boston.
Other than that, to tell you how hated the guy was, he got blamed for knocking out Janet Gretzky in that one game in 1997. Ulf delivers a check, the glass comes off and clunks Janet in the head, and she goes to the hospital. I mean, it HAD to be Ulf doing that eh? But yeah, the guy was a villain but still someone I wanted on my team
I've always wondered about the Neely hit, but never really had the courage to ask since so many people were up in arms about it...am I the only person who thinks that Ulf never stuck out his leg, and the knee-on-knee part of the hit was because Neely was trying to sidestep an open-ice hit? Everyone crucifies Ulf for being a dirty player (often times rightly so), but I feel that on that particular play he wasn't completely at fault.
I've always wondered about the Neely hit, but never really had the courage to ask since so many people were up in arms about it...am I the only person who thinks that Ulf never stuck out his leg, and the knee-on-knee part of the hit was because Neely was trying to sidestep an open-ice hit? Everyone crucifies Ulf for being a dirty player (often times rightly so), but I feel that on that particular play he wasn't completely at fault.
Are you sure you're thinking about the same hit?
Because there is a borderline hit that Ulf threw on Cam by the blueline/benches that you always see on video that most seem to accept as the one that did it.
It wasn't though, that was just the finisher. Ulf had nailed Cam with a deliberate knee earlier in the series down behind the net. That was the one that did most of the damage.
The reality is that Cam shouldn't have even have been playing after the first hit but he did anyway and payed the price when Ulf finished the job.
There was an interview with a Bruin's player or it might have even been Cam himself, I can't honestly remember. Anyway, he talked about the incident and said it was the hit behind the net that screwed him up.
You are so biased its starting to reach epic porportions.
What finished Neely off was Neelys retaliation attempt. He went in to hit Ulf by the boards and tore his other knee. Its not even the same knee! Neelys carreer would have been longer if he wasnt a hot headed bafoon who did something clumpsy. Reminds me of Espen Knutsen when he tried to headbutt the boards.
Ulf is not even close to be the dirtiest (he was dirty no doubt). Guys like Pilon, Pronger, Marchement, Shore, Cleghorn, Clarke etc got him beat.
I've always wondered about the Neely hit, but never really had the courage to ask since so many people were up in arms about it...am I the only person who thinks that Ulf never stuck out his leg, and the knee-on-knee part of the hit was because Neely was trying to sidestep an open-ice hit? Everyone crucifies Ulf for being a dirty player (often times rightly so), but I feel that on that particular play he wasn't completely at fault.