UBS Arena: Westbound and Down (or something like that)

[periferal]

Video detailing the retail village plans

Drove by the shooping village for the first time in a year today and couldn't believe how the exteriors are basically all up. This Malkin does not F around.

 

[Big L]

Drove by the shooping village for the first time in a year today and couldn't believe how the exteriors are basically all up. This Malkin does not F around.

Saw the shoppes on Saturday, and honestly the precast walls were up a long time ago. Still don’t have siding up. I couldn’t believe how far behind schedule it looks.

 

[Big L]

Does IslesLab ever have any sales? At the game on Saturday they had 25% off all jerseys. My current jersey is showing the wear and tear. I’m kicking myself for not picking one up

 

[periferal]

Saw the shoppes on Saturday, and honestly the precast walls were up a long time ago. Still don’t have siding up. I couldn’t believe how far behind schedule it looks.

Does IslesLab ever have any sales? At the game on Saturday they had 25% off all jerseys. My current jersey is showing the wear and tear. I’m kicking myself for not picking one up.

Says it's opening this summer FWIW. Of course in construction I always expect like 30-50% delays (but UBS Arena came in on time).

 

[Big L]

Says it's opening this summer FWIW. Of course in construction I always expect like 30-50% delays (but UBS Arena came in on time).

Didn’t even look like they had windows in, so can’t start any interior finishes until the buildings are buttoned up. Summer only 4 months away.

and not sure if you’re being facetious, but pretty sure UBS was a few months behind schedule.

 

[periferal]

Didn’t even look like they had windows in, so can’t start any interior finishes until the buildings are buttoned up. Summer only 4 months away.

and not sure if you’re being facetious, but pretty sure UBS was a few months behind schedule.

Yeah - It was a ferw months behind schedule (which for a project the size of a new arena is basically nothing anyway), but maybe you heard of this little thing called Covid which shut down construction...For a few months.

 

[Torrey Redux]

Yeah - It was a ferw months behind schedule (which for a project the size of a new arena is basically nothing anyway), but maybe you heard of this little thing called Covid which shut down construction...For a few months.

Haven't you heard? COVID was not a thing for most Isles fans and it affected absolutely nothing. Whatever happened during the big C was exactly what would have happened otherwise.

 

[PK Cronin]

Yeah - It was a ferw months behind schedule (which for a project the size of a new arena is basically nothing anyway), but maybe you heard of this little thing called Covid which shut down construction...For a few months.

Haven't you heard? COVID was not a thing for most Isles fans and it affected absolutely nothing. Whatever happened during the big C was exactly what would have happened otherwise.

The original comment was that the arena came in on time, it didn't, regardless of the reason. I think everyone is aware of the impact COVID had on the arena opening. Everyone from the top on down deserves kudos for how quickly they built that thing, even if it came in late.

---

I am curious if people would recommend going to The Park. Some people said it was nice when it first opened, is it still worthwhile or has the novelty worn off?

 

[periferal]

Haven't you heard? COVID was not a thing for most Isles fans and it affected absolutely nothing. Whatever happened during the big C was exactly what would have happened otherwise.

Well..You certainly have an ax to grind.

 

[Torrey Redux]

Well..You certainly have an ax to grind.

I confess........ and, it was low hanging fruit.

 

[Strummergas]

I am curious if people would recommend going to The Park. Some people said it was nice when it first opened, is it still worthwhile or has the novelty worn off?

I like it, but it's not where you want to be on a cold night, unless you enjoy freezing your balls off. They do have heated igloos that you can rent, but you probably need to do that in advance. It's going to be great towards the end of the season and (gulp) playoffs, but I'll likely not hang out there until then.

 

[doublechili]

If you need a break from scanning CapFriendly, etc. for potential trades, this is an interesting take on the future of Belmont Park. Funny that UBS Arena was designed as an homage to the existing Belmont Park grandstand, and they're tearing that down and building something ultra-modern in its place. Anyway, this is going to be awesome. Lots of additional open space. More parking. A tunnel under the racetrack maybe will provide easier access from the north lot? And the grandstand is going to have lots of dining options - not sure if they'll have those open for hockey games? Anyway, world-class facility right next door - can't be a bad thing. Malkin shopping for yachts....

Timeline, Renderings of New Belmont Park Released

A new, 275,000 square-foot grandstand at Belmont Park featuring modern amenities and hospitality is expected to be completed during the third quarter of 2026.

www.bloodhorse.com

PDF with lots of great info:

https://franchiseoversightboard.ny.gov/system/files/documents/2024/02/exhibitabelmontparkrenovationrepaymentagreementfinal_0.pdf

BTW, I'm trying to scan the images to see where they could possibly fit an outdoor rink.

 

[periferal]

Funny...

Haven't heard any Elmont residents complaining lately about the value of their homes increasing...

Elmont: Diverse community, UBS Arena draw homebuyers​

Billy Joel fans wait to enter UBS Arena for his New Year's Eve concert. Credit: Jeff Bachner


By Stacey AltherrSpecial to NewsdayMarch 4, 2024 5:00 am


THE SCOOP Located on the border between Queens and Nassau, Elmont is in the throes of dramatic change, even as it keeps its suburban personality.

"I always call it 'The Gateway to Long Island,' " said Elisette Ocampo, a real estate broker for Coldwell Banker and member of the Elmont Chamber of Commerce. "Elmont is a very diverse community with many amenities, and it has easy access to the city."

The renovation of Belmont Racetrack, located in Elmont, into a state-of-the-art stadium for concerts, the New York Islanders hockey team, and other sporting events, and public recreation such as a skating rink, has made Elmont an attractive place to live. The new Belmont Racetrack is slated to be ready in two years.

A new Long Island Rail Road train station, minutes from the new area, has direct access to Queens and Manhattan. Westbound trains from Huntington, Hempstead and Ronkonkoma stations stop at the new station as well.

The Elmont Public Library is one of the largest on Long Island, according to Mimi Pierre Johnson, founder and president of the Elmont Cultural Center and a library trustee.

"We have a teen center, a sensory room for autistic children, a large children's section and many different recreation events for seniors," she said. "We have loads of programs for the underserved, as well. We also have a large theater as part of the library."

The community's 38,000 residents do a large portion of shopping on Hempstead Turnpike, but each micro-community in Elmont has its own little shopping areas as well.

Sapienza Bake Shop is in its third generation of ownership. Credit: Howard Schnapp


"Back in the day, Elmont had a very large Jewish community, and one of the things they did back then was to have different areas have their own shopping places; food shopping or dry cleaners," said Johnson. "So, it is walkable."

The diversity of the community means an eclectic array of restaurant options as well.
"East side for Italian, and more to the west for Hispanic food, like Caribbean," she said. "Whatever you need is right here."

Meacham Avenue is home to many of Elmont's businesses and eateries. Credit: Howard Schnapp


Once called Foster's Meadow, after Christopher and Thomas Foster, the name changed to Elmont in 1882, although it is not clear why.

However, the opening of the horse racetrack in 1905 transformed Elmont from a farming community to a more residential area, with housing built for workers of the track. One of the first neighborhoods developed was by Jacob Wollkoff, for Jewish immigrants seeking to leave the city.

Homes along Audrey Avenue, top, and Gotham Avenue in Elmont. Credit: Howard Schnapp


CONDOS AND CO-OPS There are no condos or co-ops on the market.
SALE PRICES Between Feb. 1, 2023, and Jan. 31, 2024, there were 197 home sales with a median sale price of $630,000, according to OneKey MLS. During that period a year earlier, there were 197 home sales with a median sale price of $625,000.


OTHER STATS

Population 37,866
Median age 38.2
Median home value $650,000
Monthly LIRR ticket from Elmont-UBS Arena $253
School districts, graduation rates Elmont (K-6), Sewanhaka Central High School District (94.8%), Some attend Valley Stream (95.7%)

Library Elmont
Transit 1, 6, 6x, Elmont Flexi
Sources: 2021 American Community Survey; OneKey MLS via InfoSparks by ShowingTime; LIRR, data.nysed.gov
ON THE MARKET
$899,999

This $899,999 Elmont home underwent a gut renovation. Credit: Tim Hill Photo


This three-bedroom, three-bathroom Cape has been through a gut renovation, adding new electric, plumbing, HVAC and central air conditioning. The home has high-end kitchen cabinets and appliances, a large dining area and a landscaped yard with iron gates in front. Annual taxes are $12,747. Brian T. Zegans, Homelink Homes LLC, 516-322-3139.
$585,000

This $585,000 Elmont home was built in 1928. Credit: Kevin Spelman Studio


This centrally located two-bedroom, two-bathroom raised ranch home has a large, unfinished top floor. Built in 1928, the home has hardwood floors, gas heat and a separate laundry room, as well as a full, partially-finished basement. Annual taxes are $7,476. Dean Graber, Keller Williams Realty Landmark, 718-475-2700.


RECENTLY SOLD

$940,000
Kirkman Avenue
Style Other
Bedrooms 6
Bathrooms 3
Built 1985
Lot size 0.14 acre
Taxes $10,639
+/- List price -$48,000
Days on market 193

$525,000
Kirkman Avenue
Style Cape
Bedrooms 2
Bathrooms 2
Built 1931
Lot size 0.09 acre
Taxes $8,308
+/- List price +$27,000
Days on market 304

$470,000
Oakley Avenue
Style Cape
Bedrooms 4
Bathrooms 3
Built 1945
Lot size 0.09 acre
Taxes $8,296
+/- List price +$70,000
Days on market 25


ON ONEKEY MLS
Number of listings 42
Price range $495,000 to $1.6 million
Tax range $8,800 to $15,932
By Stacey Altherr
Special to Newsday
MORE ON THIS TOPIC
Guide to buying a home in Long Island communities

TOP STORIES​

MOST POPULAR​

 

[Bones45]

Funny...

Haven't heard any Elmont residents complaining lately about the value of their homes increasing...

Elmont: Diverse community, UBS Arena draw homebuyers​

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Billy Joel fans wait to enter UBS Arena for his New Year's Eve concert. Credit: Jeff Bachner


By Stacey AltherrSpecial to NewsdayMarch 4, 2024 5:00 am


THE SCOOP Located on the border between Queens and Nassau, Elmont is in the throes of dramatic change, even as it keeps its suburban personality.

"I always call it 'The Gateway to Long Island,' " said Elisette Ocampo, a real estate broker for Coldwell Banker and member of the Elmont Chamber of Commerce. "Elmont is a very diverse community with many amenities, and it has easy access to the city."

The renovation of Belmont Racetrack, located in Elmont, into a state-of-the-art stadium for concerts, the New York Islanders hockey team, and other sporting events, and public recreation such as a skating rink, has made Elmont an attractive place to live. The new Belmont Racetrack is slated to be ready in two years.

A new Long Island Rail Road train station, minutes from the new area, has direct access to Queens and Manhattan. Westbound trains from Huntington, Hempstead and Ronkonkoma stations stop at the new station as well.

The Elmont Public Library is one of the largest on Long Island, according to Mimi Pierre Johnson, founder and president of the Elmont Cultural Center and a library trustee.

"We have a teen center, a sensory room for autistic children, a large children's section and many different recreation events for seniors," she said. "We have loads of programs for the underserved, as well. We also have a large theater as part of the library."

The community's 38,000 residents do a large portion of shopping on Hempstead Turnpike, but each micro-community in Elmont has its own little shopping areas as well.

Sapienza Bake Shop is in its third generation of ownership. Credit: Howard Schnapp


"Back in the day, Elmont had a very large Jewish community, and one of the things they did back then was to have different areas have their own shopping places; food shopping or dry cleaners," said Johnson. "So, it is walkable."

The diversity of the community means an eclectic array of restaurant options as well.
"East side for Italian, and more to the west for Hispanic food, like Caribbean," she said. "Whatever you need is right here."

Meacham Avenue is home to many of Elmont's businesses and eateries. Credit: Howard Schnapp


Once called Foster's Meadow, after Christopher and Thomas Foster, the name changed to Elmont in 1882, although it is not clear why.

However, the opening of the horse racetrack in 1905 transformed Elmont from a farming community to a more residential area, with housing built for workers of the track. One of the first neighborhoods developed was by Jacob Wollkoff, for Jewish immigrants seeking to leave the city.

Homes along Audrey Avenue, top, and Gotham Avenue in Elmont. Credit: Howard Schnapp


CONDOS AND CO-OPS There are no condos or co-ops on the market.
SALE PRICES Between Feb. 1, 2023, and Jan. 31, 2024, there were 197 home sales with a median sale price of $630,000, according to OneKey MLS. During that period a year earlier, there were 197 home sales with a median sale price of $625,000.


OTHER STATS

Population 37,866
Median age 38.2
Median home value $650,000
Monthly LIRR ticket from Elmont-UBS Arena $253
School districts, graduation rates Elmont (K-6), Sewanhaka Central High School District (94.8%), Some attend Valley Stream (95.7%)

Library Elmont
Transit 1, 6, 6x, Elmont Flexi
Sources: 2021 American Community Survey; OneKey MLS via InfoSparks by ShowingTime; LIRR, data.nysed.gov
ON THE MARKET
$899,999

This $899,999 Elmont home underwent a gut renovation. Credit: Tim Hill Photo


This three-bedroom, three-bathroom Cape has been through a gut renovation, adding new electric, plumbing, HVAC and central air conditioning. The home has high-end kitchen cabinets and appliances, a large dining area and a landscaped yard with iron gates in front. Annual taxes are $12,747. Brian T. Zegans, Homelink Homes LLC, 516-322-3139.
$585,000

This $585,000 Elmont home was built in 1928. Credit: Kevin Spelman Studio


This centrally located two-bedroom, two-bathroom raised ranch home has a large, unfinished top floor. Built in 1928, the home has hardwood floors, gas heat and a separate laundry room, as well as a full, partially-finished basement. Annual taxes are $7,476. Dean Graber, Keller Williams Realty Landmark, 718-475-2700.


RECENTLY SOLD

$940,000
Kirkman Avenue
Style Other
Bedrooms 6
Bathrooms 3
Built 1985
Lot size 0.14 acre
Taxes $10,639
+/- List price -$48,000
Days on market 193

$525,000
Kirkman Avenue
Style Cape
Bedrooms 2
Bathrooms 2
Built 1931
Lot size 0.09 acre
Taxes $8,308
+/- List price +$27,000
Days on market 304

$470,000
Oakley Avenue
Style Cape
Bedrooms 4
Bathrooms 3
Built 1945
Lot size 0.09 acre
Taxes $8,296
+/- List price +$70,000
Days on market 25


ON ONEKEY MLS
Number of listings 42
Price range $495,000 to $1.6 million
Tax range $8,800 to $15,932
By Stacey Altherr
Special to Newsday
MORE ON THIS TOPIC
Guide to buying a home in Long Island communities

TOP STORIES​

MOST POPULAR​

RIding east / west on 24 in Elmont--- its a shit hole.

 

[WangMustGo]

Funny...

Haven't heard any Elmont residents complaining lately about the value of their homes increasing...

Elmont: Diverse community, UBS Arena draw homebuyers​

View attachment 830634
Billy Joel fans wait to enter UBS Arena for his New Year's Eve concert. Credit: Jeff Bachner


By Stacey AltherrSpecial to NewsdayMarch 4, 2024 5:00 am


THE SCOOP Located on the border between Queens and Nassau, Elmont is in the throes of dramatic change, even as it keeps its suburban personality.

"I always call it 'The Gateway to Long Island,' " said Elisette Ocampo, a real estate broker for Coldwell Banker and member of the Elmont Chamber of Commerce. "Elmont is a very diverse community with many amenities, and it has easy access to the city."

The renovation of Belmont Racetrack, located in Elmont, into a state-of-the-art stadium for concerts, the New York Islanders hockey team, and other sporting events, and public recreation such as a skating rink, has made Elmont an attractive place to live. The new Belmont Racetrack is slated to be ready in two years.

A new Long Island Rail Road train station, minutes from the new area, has direct access to Queens and Manhattan. Westbound trains from Huntington, Hempstead and Ronkonkoma stations stop at the new station as well.

The Elmont Public Library is one of the largest on Long Island, according to Mimi Pierre Johnson, founder and president of the Elmont Cultural Center and a library trustee.

"We have a teen center, a sensory room for autistic children, a large children's section and many different recreation events for seniors," she said. "We have loads of programs for the underserved, as well. We also have a large theater as part of the library."

The community's 38,000 residents do a large portion of shopping on Hempstead Turnpike, but each micro-community in Elmont has its own little shopping areas as well.

Sapienza Bake Shop is in its third generation of ownership. Credit: Howard Schnapp


"Back in the day, Elmont had a very large Jewish community, and one of the things they did back then was to have different areas have their own shopping places; food shopping or dry cleaners," said Johnson. "So, it is walkable."

The diversity of the community means an eclectic array of restaurant options as well.
"East side for Italian, and more to the west for Hispanic food, like Caribbean," she said. "Whatever you need is right here."

Meacham Avenue is home to many of Elmont's businesses and eateries. Credit: Howard Schnapp


Once called Foster's Meadow, after Christopher and Thomas Foster, the name changed to Elmont in 1882, although it is not clear why.

However, the opening of the horse racetrack in 1905 transformed Elmont from a farming community to a more residential area, with housing built for workers of the track. One of the first neighborhoods developed was by Jacob Wollkoff, for Jewish immigrants seeking to leave the city.

Homes along Audrey Avenue, top, and Gotham Avenue in Elmont. Credit: Howard Schnapp


CONDOS AND CO-OPS There are no condos or co-ops on the market.
SALE PRICES Between Feb. 1, 2023, and Jan. 31, 2024, there were 197 home sales with a median sale price of $630,000, according to OneKey MLS. During that period a year earlier, there were 197 home sales with a median sale price of $625,000.


OTHER STATS

Population 37,866
Median age 38.2
Median home value $650,000
Monthly LIRR ticket from Elmont-UBS Arena $253
School districts, graduation rates Elmont (K-6), Sewanhaka Central High School District (94.8%), Some attend Valley Stream (95.7%)

Library Elmont
Transit 1, 6, 6x, Elmont Flexi
Sources: 2021 American Community Survey; OneKey MLS via InfoSparks by ShowingTime; LIRR, data.nysed.gov
ON THE MARKET
$899,999

This $899,999 Elmont home underwent a gut renovation. Credit: Tim Hill Photo


This three-bedroom, three-bathroom Cape has been through a gut renovation, adding new electric, plumbing, HVAC and central air conditioning. The home has high-end kitchen cabinets and appliances, a large dining area and a landscaped yard with iron gates in front. Annual taxes are $12,747. Brian T. Zegans, Homelink Homes LLC, 516-322-3139.
$585,000

This $585,000 Elmont home was built in 1928. Credit: Kevin Spelman Studio


This centrally located two-bedroom, two-bathroom raised ranch home has a large, unfinished top floor. Built in 1928, the home has hardwood floors, gas heat and a separate laundry room, as well as a full, partially-finished basement. Annual taxes are $7,476. Dean Graber, Keller Williams Realty Landmark, 718-475-2700.


RECENTLY SOLD

$940,000
Kirkman Avenue
Style Other
Bedrooms 6
Bathrooms 3
Built 1985
Lot size 0.14 acre
Taxes $10,639
+/- List price -$48,000
Days on market 193

$525,000
Kirkman Avenue
Style Cape
Bedrooms 2
Bathrooms 2
Built 1931
Lot size 0.09 acre
Taxes $8,308
+/- List price +$27,000
Days on market 304

$470,000
Oakley Avenue
Style Cape
Bedrooms 4
Bathrooms 3
Built 1945
Lot size 0.09 acre
Taxes $8,296
+/- List price +$70,000
Days on market 25


ON ONEKEY MLS
Number of listings 42
Price range $495,000 to $1.6 million
Tax range $8,800 to $15,932
By Stacey Altherr
Special to Newsday
MORE ON THIS TOPIC
Guide to buying a home in Long Island communities

TOP STORIES​

MOST POPULAR​

The full time train station is the biggest + for the neighborhood.

RIding east / west on 24 in Elmont--- its a shit hole.

So is sunrise, the southern, northern, and the LIE.

 

[Bones45]

The full time train station is the biggest + for the neighborhood.



So is sunrise, the southern, northern, and the LIE.

Those are major arteries for Long Island. There isnt any residental space there. If you're trying to stick up for Elmont, good luck.

 

[MJF]

Those are major arteries for Long Island. There isnt any residental space there. If you're trying to stick up for Elmont, good luck.

How do you feel about Franklin Square?

 

[Bones45]

How do you feel about Franklin Square?

Its slightly better I guess ---- but still dont care for that area much either. - Ive pregamed at Trotters -- like that place.

 

[WangMustGo]

Those are major arteries for Long Island. There isnt any residental space there. If you're trying to stick up for Elmont, good luck.

Oh I’m certainly not, Elmont is not a spot I’d ever move to, I hate going over there. However I do think it will improve over the next 10-20 years.

 

[periferal]

RIding east / west on 24 in Elmont--- its a shit hole.

So is most of West Nassau. That said given how shitty it is putting a brand new arena/event center, luxury mall, train station, and a gut renovation of Belmont aren't going to do anything but increase property values and make it more of a destination.

 

[Bones45]

So is most of West Nassau. That said given how shitty it is putting a brand new arena/event center, luxury mall, train station, and a gut renovation of Belmont aren't going to do anything but increase property values and make it more of a destination.

I guess thats the idea. Im still not convinced that people are going to go there to "shop" -- use it as a pregame/post game spot to hang out? Absolutely. But Im thinking Roosevelt Field and NYC would be preferred, but what do I know....

Do we know the list of stores/names which are going to be there?

 

[PK Cronin]

I guess thats the idea. Im still not convinced that people are going to go there to "shop" -- use it as a pregame/post game spot to hang out? Absolutely. But Im thinking Roosevelt Field and NYC would be preferred, but what do I know....

Do we know the list of stores/names which are going to be there?

I don't think there's a list but it'll be luxury items and high end brands that none of us can afford if Malkin's history is any indication.

 

[MJF]

I don't think there's a list but it'll be luxury items and high end brands that none of us can afford if Malkin's history is any indication.

I’m pretty sure Malkin’s target demo for the mall is foreign tourists who come loaded with cash, then repeat customers from the events at UBS and the race track.

 

[Bones45]

I don't think there's a list but it'll be luxury items and high end brands that none of us can afford if Malkin's history is any indication.

Elmont >> 5th Ave and Madison?

I guess we'll find out!

 

[MJF]

Elmont >> 5th Ave and Madison?

I guess we'll find out!

He got people to shop his mall in England, which is located 30 minutes outside of London in what is still a blue collar town, IIRC.

I’ll defer to Scott Malkin and that he knows what he’s doing.