Player Discussion Tyler Seguin

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A life is a terrible thing to waste. :(

(Seriously. We both know Loui's staying in Boston, David.)
I meant Iginla. Eriksson was good on that line with Soderberg. He had a tough year with the 2 concussions and there are parts of his game that I don't like, but I definitely want him on the team next year.

Iginla though can just **** off. It's not that he didn't want it, he's just old, we need to upgrade that spot next year, re-signing him is not an option and if they do re-sign him I will be very upset.

You could of used Seguin's speed.
Speed doesn't mean anything if you can't finish, but the Bruins didn't do anything this year to prove that they couldn't have used Seguin's speed, so that's a fair assessment.

I know we have our differences, but I respect a man that can take his lumps when they come to him.
I'm a man of my word and I stand by everything I have posted in this thread.
 
I meant Iginla. Eriksson was good on that line with Soderberg. He had a tough year with the 2 concussions and there are parts of his game that I don't like, but I definitely want him on the team next year.

Iginla though can just **** off. It's not that he didn't want it, he's just old, we need to upgrade that spot next year, re-signing him is not an option and if they do re-sign him I will be very upset.

Ah, my bad, misread the post.

Is Fraser a regular next season, you think?
 
Ah, my bad, misread the post.

Is Fraser a regular next season, you think?

I don't know. I mean if I had to make a decision right now, I'd pencil him in as the 13th forward. But for the Bruins, the forwards will be

Lucic-Krejci-XXX
XXX-Bergeron-Smith
XXX-Soderberg-Eriksson
Paille-Campbell-Thornton

Paille is definitely third line talent, but the Bruins have just been so deep and that 4th line has been so good for them in the past, that they haven't broken up that line. But I believe that Paille could be that left winger on that 3rd line next year, and this kid Anthony Camara may fill that spot on the 4th line. Camara plays a very, very bruising, Bruin style of game. He's just an absolute warrior. He didn't play any NHL games this year but he was right on the bubble and I think he will likely be in that spot and have Paille move up to the 3rd.

Marchand I would like traded, Iginla I don't want back. So depending on what they get for Marchand, it'll be interesting to see how those lines shake out.

I made a post at the deadline before Eriksson was put with Soderberg, that the Bruins may entertain trading Eriksson and Malcolm Subban and a draft pick to Vancouver for Ryan Kesler. Subban could be their goalie of the future after they've dealt Lou/Schneider (also his brother Jordan is in the Vancouver system), and Eriksson obviously has great chemistry with the Sedins. But now, with Eriksson fitting so well on that 3rd line with Soderberg, maybe Marchand is the centerpiece going back in that deal? That would certainly be interesting.

There isn't much out there in free agency, either. I always hated the fact that the Bruins let Ryder walk after 2011, he was always such a great playoff player for them, he was always one of my favorite players. I think that really hurt them the following year when they had trouble scoring against Washington in the 1st round with Horton out and Krejci playing with a concussion after that pane of glass fell on his head after Game 1.
 
In case you missed it most 22 year olds aren't lighting the league on fire. Smith made huge strides for you. Expecting him to all of a sudden carry your lackluster team is absurd. Kid is going to be a good player but never great. He's not a consistent 70+ point guy. You're setting yourself up for disappointment.

While I personally don't wish Krejci to fail something is obviously not right and you better hope he figures it out or there are going to be further problems in Boston next year.
 
In case you missed it most 22 year olds aren't lighting the league on fire. Smith made huge strides for you. Expecting him to all of a sudden carry your lackluster team is absurd. Kid is going to be a good player but never great. He's not a consistent 70+ point guy. You're setting yourself up for disappointment.

While I personally don't wish Krejci to fail something is obviously not right and you better hope he figures it out or there are going to be further problems in Boston next year.

I wasn't expecting him to carry the team. He was very good overall in the playoffs. I would like to see a bit more consistency from him, that's all I said. Obviously he was playing with Marchand who was completely inept, but he and Bergeron were decent.

This was a very uncharacteristic performance in the playoffs for Krejci. Lucic couldn't put the puck into open nets, but the rest of his game was good. Iginla was pretty much awful, despite scoring 5 goals throughout the playoffs. But Krejci has to be better.

He obviously has a longer leash than someone like Marchand, because he's been so dominant and proven in the playoffs whereas Marchand has not been satisfactory since 2011. But just talking about this year, Krejci definitely sucked ass. And like I said, it wasn't even just scoring. He was making bad breakout passes, putting guys in dangerous spots, turning the puck over, etc. Just an absolutely abysmal showing, and he'll be the first one to admit it.

He's kind of the "straw that stirs the drink" for their offense. When he's going, it trickles on down and permeates through everyone, same with Lucic. I really lamented it when Horton walked to Columbus, and I was ripped for it because people thought Iginla was going to be a better fit blah blah blah, and when Iginla was scoring a ton of goals in the regular season I said "wait until the playoffs to make an assessment here". How quickly some people forget how good Nathan Horton was in the playoffs for us. Not just clutch, but consistent, dominant. They really missed him this year, but it was his choice to leave Boston, we wanted to keep him but he didn't even give us a chance to make a counter offer to Columbus', for whatever reason.
 
Props to David Krejci for stopping by. Some of you guys take way to much enjoyment in the Bruins loss. Let's not fall down to the same level as some off the Bruins trolls. :)
 
No props Klockis and Sean when he enters the discussion calling us frauds. Anyway, it was nice watching Boston lose. Hard to not root against any team in that city. I feel the same way about Philly.
 
No props Klockis and Sean when he enters the discussion calling us frauds. Anyway, it was nice watching Boston lose. Hard to not root against any team in that city. I feel the same way about Philly.

Well you guys wanted him to come here. Apparently some of you PM'd him to come here, which in my book means that he doesn't need to be nice. Those PMs probably contained some idiotic stuff too. Sorry I just don't like the tone in here.
 
"Iginla though can just **** off"

It's like 30 goal scorers just grow on trees. Only in Boston does the regular season mean diddly squat.
 
Smith was a good player for us overall, but too inconsistent. It's hard when one of you linemates is maybe playing the worst hockey of anyone in the NHL, but I needed more from him as a 2nd line player, I don't care if he is only 22.

For all of his genius, Chiarelli didn't do his job if at the end of the season fans are bemoaning their 22 year old 2nd liner's inconsistency.
 
Oops

Although he was coming anyway.

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"Iginla though can just **** off"

It's like 30 goal scorers just grow on trees. Only in Boston does the regular season mean diddly squat.
You're damn right it means diddly squat. Do you get a ring, a parade, or a banner for regular season success or individual stats? No, so I don't care. Give me a bunch of 15-20 goal scorers who are going to show up in the playoffs over a 30+ one who doesn't any day of the week.

Iginla's goal total in the playoffs wasn't bad. He scored 5, but he played very very badly (he wasn't the only one, though). And like I said, with tip in goals, it takes skill/hand-eye coordination to get your stick on the puck, but after you tip it, what the puck does is pretty much out of your control and all luck. 3 of his 5 goals in the playoffs were tip ins, and one of his other two bounced in off of his ass. I'm glad he scored those goals, but his skating, passing, cycling down low (which is what his line is supposed to be the best at) all were completely off for the entire duration of the playoffs. He kept trying to make impossible passes through 2 defenders, shooting into Price's chest, shooting right into guys who are down to block shots. Part of this is credit to Montreal and their shot blocking and defensive structure, but that line didn't make the adjustments they needed to to find their way around what Montreal was doing.

If he and the rest of that Lucic-Krejci line played like they did in the 3rd period of Game 7 for the whole series or even for a portion of it, they would've had a better outcome. And that was what was expected of them, and they didn't do it.

It's not all his fault. It's not that he didn't try or didn't care, he's just getting old and has lost a step. He couldn't finish quality chances like the rest of them couldn't. The Bruins need to upgrade in that spot.

For all of his genius, Chiarelli didn't do his job if at the end of the season fans are bemoaning their 22 year old 2nd liner's inconsistency.

I agree. Scoreboard. The team he built this year was not good enough.
 
You're damn right it means diddly squat. Do you get a ring, a parade, or a banner for regular season success or individual stats? No, so I don't care. Give me a bunch of 15-20 goal scorers who are going to show up in the playoffs over a 30+ one who doesn't any day of the week.

Iginla's goal total in the playoffs wasn't bad. He scored 5, but he played very very badly (he wasn't the only one, though). And like I said, with tip in goals, it takes skill/hand-eye coordination to get your stick on the puck, but after you tip it, what the puck does is pretty much out of your control and all luck. 3 of his 5 goals in the playoffs were tip ins, and one of his other two bounced in off of his ass. I'm glad he scored those goals, but his skating, passing, cycling down low (which is what his line is supposed to be the best at) all were completely off for the entire duration of the playoffs. He kept trying to make impossible passes through 2 defenders, shooting into Price's chest, shooting right into guys who are down to block shots. Part of this is credit to Montreal and their shot blocking and defensive structure, but that line didn't make the adjustments they needed to to find their way around what Montreal was doing.

If he and the rest of that Lucic-Krejci line played like they did in the 3rd period of Game 7 for the whole series or even for a portion of it, they would've had a better outcome. And that was what was expected of them, and they didn't do it.

It's not all his fault. It's not that he didn't try or didn't care, he's just getting old and has lost a step. He couldn't finish quality chances like the rest of them couldn't. The Bruins need to upgrade in that spot.



I agree. Scoreboard. The team he built this year was not good enough.

:sarcasm:

Just giving you a hard time- not actually a part of this discussion.
 

I don't get what you're doing or saying? We don't play for Presidents trophies or division championships. We didn't trade Tyler Seguin to win the Presidents trophy. The Bruins are a championship calibre team with a championship proven and calibre core, who are all in their absolute prime right now. If you expect anything less, you're selling yourself short. The team didn't expect anything less of themselves or hold themselves to a lower standard, and neither should the fans.
 
I guess it could've been worse. Tampa couldve won the division miraculously and Les Habitants eliminate the big bad Bruins in the first round.
 
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