Why would we want to move Chabot? When a young player develops well and turns into a very good player, it doesn’t mean you have to move one of your other already good players.
Sanderson - Chabot - Kleven can be a strong LD for years to come.
Player Discussion Tyler Kleven (D) at 44th Overall (Sens traded up)
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Why would we want to move Chabot? When a young player develops well and turns into a very good player, it doesn’t mean you have to move one of your other already good players.
Sanderson - Chabot - Kleven can be a strong LD for years to come.
BondraTime
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If Kleven becomes a better option than Chabot the Sens are in a very good spot.
Almost positive that will not be happening the duration of Chabot’s contract, they play incredibly different games, and Chabot is playing nearly 10 minutes more per game on any given night. And incredibly well.
Kleven is doing well in his 12-15 minute a night role. Not sure they’re looking to get him an additional 5-8 minutes a game and responsibility anytime soon. And definitely not when they already have two guys playing extremely well at 23/24+ minutes a game
Almost positive that will not be happening the duration of Chabot’s contract, they play incredibly different games, and Chabot is playing nearly 10 minutes more per game on any given night. And incredibly well.
Kleven is doing well in his 12-15 minute a night role. Not sure they’re looking to get him an additional 5-8 minutes a game and responsibility anytime soon. And definitely not when they already have two guys playing extremely well at 23/24+ minutes a game
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aragorn
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The Sens depend on Chabot for offence & they depend on Kleven for defence, as you said completely different roles.
ReginKarlssonLehner
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I don't think 'offense' is accurate anymore. I believe transition and breakouts is more accurate now. Or maybe that's just him re-wiring his priorities and the offense will soon follow.
Chabot is pacing the lowest point totals since his rookie year. His defense is the best it has ever been in the NHL, though. I mean.. he is still 7th in the team in scoring, so that's still significant.
Depending how Yakemchuk plays on his ELC he may get a big contract as his 2nd contract.
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Both Chabot and Sanderson were making 8 mil coming out of their ELC, so there's a non-zero chance Yak will make big money on his first SPC as well.
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The Devilish Buffoon
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Non-zero, absolutely. But Yak will be entering a far deeper D core, and the simple fact is that we wont be able to give everyone max term without sacrificing elsewhere.
If Yakemchuk shows that he is a legit top pairing guy who can anchor his own pairing before his ELC is up, that changes the calculus for sure. And there is a chance of it happening, far better than zero but still not likely in my books. I think it will take some time.
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He's no longer on the first PP so 1 min or 2 less a game, and with lesser linemates, his 5v5 production is in line with career averages.
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The transition from zone to zone is a more significant contributor to offense than most plays inside the offensive zone. Chabot is scoring at an ok or good pace, but he lays the foundations for our offense at an elite rate.
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The big advantage he has is he is the only Dman in our org that can be seen as a potential PP specialist which might mean top PP while in his ELC. I could see him to having a similar trajectory to Sergachev. He won't likely get 8+ mil long term, but a bridge deal could still be in the 6 mil + range for 3 years or whatever.
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They depended on Chabot for offence before Sanderson arrived & at $8 mil per yr he needs to provide more offence now. That is the next big problem that Green has to fix offensive pts from the backend, it's too low & it needs to increase & I think it will. I view transition & breakouts as offence but we also need more scoring from the backend, that has to improve as a whole. Yakemchuk whenever he is NHL ready could also help with providing scoring from the defence.
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He's been taken off the first PP unit for Sanderson. The offence as a whole has dropped off in the past few months (tough schedule wearing down our top forwards, perhaps?) so it's going to be hard for him to put up the numbers he has in the past. But if the team is winning, he's a big part of it regardless.
It seems that many posters want to sign players who are young and display some talent to longer term contracts now in order to get such players at a discount to what they would be worth in the future. The hope is that they become better players with more experience. Sometimes that works out; but not all the time. It is risky business to do so. It's like gambling where some people think they know how to win. That "insight" is often wrong.
I feel more confident in signing longer term contracts with draft picks that were drafted in the first round and particularly in the top 15.
I don't see Kleven becoming a top 2 D on any NHL team. He has a possibility of becoming a 2LD but the probability is probably less than 50:50. I think it is better to let him get more experience before signing a longer term contract at a higher salary in an attempt to get a "discount".
A GM must be very careful handing out longer term contracts at higher than currently justified salaries because the cap limits what he can do.
