Proposal: Two Leaf trades Leafs- Islanders Leafs-Ducks

[Pierce Hawthorne]

1st deal is fair(Perhaps the Isles add one more piece) but the 2nd deal is awful.


If you're getting Gibson AND dumping a bad contract it is going to cost a hell of a lot more then a 1st and 2nd. That's awful value.

 

[Crazy8oooo]

He played all over the lineup, I thought he was a lot better overall this year than the two prior in Toronto where he was often just a warm body. If the Ducks retained 50% at the deadline there would be several suitors no doubt, probably Toronto again lol

The problem with being able to flip Kerfoot at the deadline is that he'll have a limited NTC which could hurt the value, depending on who he'd be blocking trades to.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

on the first trade…. The difference in pick value between 13 and Toronto pick (25-28) is HUGE.

a player at 13 is a solid career player who coukd be a superstar.a pick at 38 is lucky to even see50 nhl games. Wahlstrom was a top 12 pick.


Mayfield>Sandin
13>25-28+ Nylander.
Isles throw in Wahlstom

WTF

the second deal…Kerfoot diesnt return a 2nd given his cap hit. He has a NTC next season.
a late 1st and late 2nd do what forAnaheim?

LMAO umm sure

 

[Jared Dunn]

The problem with being able to flip Kerfoot at the deadline is that he'll have a limited NTC which could hurt the value, depending on who he'd be blocking trades to.

Would it apply if he's already been dealt once? Also I have to imagine he'd say yes to any team securely in playoffs which would be the vast majority of those looking, he's a UFA so can't imagine him putting up a huge fuss about where he's going for 1.5-3 months

 

[CraigsList]

I'd probably do the first trade from NYI perspective.

I would hope so, Toronto gets bent over just to move 13-15 spots. Makes zero sense.

 

[seafoam]

NYI proposal feels like something out of a video game.

If they swap Bailey for picks/prospects, I can see them interested in Kerfoot. If they swap Bailey for a roster player I don’t think they are good trading partners with TOR at that point.

Sandin isn’t established enough to confidently slide into NYI’s second pairing, and I think Nylander will be too rich for their blood (I think he is being underrated based on the initial proposal).

 

[boredmale]

Wahlstrom and Mayfield are guys who's contributions you can replace with 2-3 mil total spent in the FA market lol.

Mayfield's contract is one of the best bargains for the buck in the league. That being said he is a UFA next summer and I am guessing he cashes out so his value is only limited to being a cheap contract for 1 year

 

[Ziggdiezan]

You’re really trying to spin that as bad for New York? Wouldnt trade Nylander alone for that package

Wait you don't think Nylander's value is moving up like 12 places to 13th overall? Lol...

 

[Crazy8oooo]

Would it apply if he's already been dealt once? Also I have to imagine he'd say yes to any team securely in playoffs which would be the vast majority of those looking, he's a UFA so can't imagine him putting up a huge fuss about where he's going for 1.5-3 months

Pretty sure it sticks now, whereas before, the team trading for the player could choose to honor it or not.

Also, there are plenty of players who have declined being traded to contenders at the deadline, so I don’t think it’s as much of a given as you think it is that he would accept a trade. Not saying he wouldn’t, but it’s far from a guarantee.

 

[IslesNorway]

Islanders can't take on salary. I think there's a nucleus for deal somewhere in there, but Mayfield's contract alone is worth far, far more than his standalone worth as a player. To a true contender needing toughness on defence he is worth a ton.

 

[BlueBaron]

The problem with being able to flip Kerfoot at the deadline is that he'll have a limited NTC which could hurt the value, depending on who he'd be blocking trades to.

People dont usually block playoff teams, maybe Canadian ones.

 

[Big Muddy]

You’re really trying to spin that as bad for New York? Wouldnt trade Nylander alone for that package

Not sure how you managed to even interpret that babble.

 

[Sparksrus3]

I'd probably do the first trade from NYI perspective.

Ordering Nylander sweater as we type. Always believed a NYLANDER should be a NYISLANDER..

 

[S.S. Giggy]

From a Ducks' perspective, this sounds like Leafs' fans going full Leafs' fans again with these outlandish trades.

 

[Crazy8oooo]

Switch 1st pick tor from NYI trade and put it in ducks trade look closer of reality in my mind...

Are you actually suggesting:

To Ducks:
2nd
Kerfoot
Mrazek

To Leafs:
1st
Gibson
Comtois

Your post isn't clear, but it sounds like the above is what you're suggesting?

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

Are you actually suggesting:

To Ducks:
2nd
Kerfoot
Mrazek

To Leafs:
1st
Gibson
Comtois

Your post isn't clear, but it sounds like the above is what you're suggesting?

No hes saying take out the leafs first from the islanders trade and put it into the ducks trade with everything else.

 

[I am Canadian]

Horrible? Are you taking into consideration the $6 million plus in cap space you gain?

Losing a 34 goal scoring PPG winger as well... You act as if Nylander is a cap dump.

Yes, horrible

 

[BlueBaron]

I don't think this makes much sense. I don't think any Leaf fan wants to trade Nylander or Sandin. Trading one for a player we might get a comparable of in free agency is the more logical option to explore. This is a a step backwards.

 

[steveat]

Go all in and get a young superstar like Spencer knight, Askarov, Sorokin or Shestyorkin

Go big or go home. Leafs are too timid with trades....you have to go hard....it's like you take small chances for a goalie..figure out that person isn't fit for the job..then you look for one a little better..that doesn't work and you search again for someone who is a little better and it doesn't work out..

you see where this is going...just go for the damn gold...stop being so attached to your players. DO THE DEAL. Nylander, Marner and a first for Shesty!

 

[Atomos2]

on the first trade…. The difference in pick value between 13 and Toronto pick (25-28) is HUGE.

a player at 13 is a solid career player who coukd be a superstar.a pick at 38 is lucky to even see50 nhl games. Wahlstrom was a top 12 pick.


Mayfield>Sandin
13>25-28+ Nylander.
Isles throw in Wahlstom

WTF

the second deal…Kerfoot diesnt return a 2nd given his cap hit. He has a NTC next season.
a late 1st and late 2nd do what forAnaheim?

What the f*** is this?

 

[thusk]

Are you actually suggesting:

To Ducks:
2nd
Kerfoot
Mrazek

To Leafs:
1st
Gibson
Comtois

Your post isn't clear, but it sounds like the above is what you're suggesting?

To NYI

Nylander
Sandin

To toronto
gibson
Wahltrom
Comtois
Mayfield

To anaheim
NYI and TOR 1st
Mrazek
2nd pick 2024 and/ or kerfoot

 

[Crazy8oooo]

No hes saying take out the leafs first from the islanders trade and put it into the ducks trade with everything else.

lol got it. Thank you for the translation.

 

[Crazy8oooo]

To NYI

Nylander
Sandin

To toronto
gibson
Wahltrom
Comtois
Mayfield

To anaheim
NYI and TOR 1st
Mrazek
2nd pick 2024 and/ or kerfoot

This is closer from an Anaheim perspective, but still missing a smaller add IMO. Maybe another 2nd or equivalent prospect. As is, I feel it’s selling too low. Understand if Toronto says no to adding another piece though.

The way I see it is Kerfoot and the 2nd make up for taking on Mrazek. (2 2nds equivalent) - could be debated that it’s a slight overpayment to shed Mrazek.

2 1sts is not enough for both Gibson and Comtois. Adding another 2nd makes it close although I still would be disappointed as a Ducks fan. Although, I understand teams may not want to give up more than that.

 

[leeroggy]

Losing a 34 goal scoring PPG winger as well... You act as if Nylander is a cap dump.

Yes, horrible

No I didn’t, you did

I’m just pointing out that it gives you space

How many Leafs fans here have been bemoaning the lack of space here? 90% at least?

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

This is closer from an Anaheim perspective, but still missing a smaller add IMO. Maybe another 2nd or equivalent prospect. As is, I feel it’s selling too low. Understand if Toronto says no to adding another piece though.

The way I see it is Kerfoot and the 2nd make up for taking on Mrazek. (2 2nds equivalent) - could be debated that it’s a slight overpayment to shed Mrazek.

2 1sts is not enough for both Gibson and Comtois. Adding another 2nd makes it close although I still would be disappointed as a Ducks fan. Although, I understand teams may not want to give up more than that.

Gibson on his own isn't worth the 13th overall, his numbers are poor and comtois value is a late 1st currently. I think the two firsts are a bit of an over pay but not to much of one. Gibson still needs to bounce back on whatever team he is traded to so there is still a risk.