TV Ratings for WC2025
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It was addressing the potential benefits and what could happen.
As I stated, just an educated hunch.
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None of that would actually happen tho, and theres no potential benefits to slashing 60-70 playoff games and their revenue in a league thats dying for eyeballs to watch those games.
I guess I have more faith in the ability of the game to draw new fans under the rifht structure
Misplaced faith? Perhaps.
But alas, we shall never know cause I ain't the all powerful, do whatever I want leader of the NHL .
For if I was....how glorious would the league be!
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A one game knockout playoffs is the exact opposite of that.I guess I have more faith in the ability of the game to draw new fans under the rifht structure
Misplaced faith? Perhaps.
But alas, we shall never know cause I ain't the all powerful, do whatever I want leader of the NHL .
For if I was....how glorious would the league be!
That's a possibility or my hunch is correct snd it draws in millions.....AND MILLIONS!.....of hoxkey fans of other teams and casual fans since they know someone is moving on and someone is going home. People enjoy high stakes tv
The SB has over 100 million viewers. Are rhey all football fans. No. They're people caught up in the hype of a game that started off as a do or die game.
March Madness ratings. Through the roof. I even watch the games just because each gsme is so important and not one of anywhere from 4 to 7 games .
People like the sprints- not the marathons
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Nah, you just live in fantasy land.
Comparing the NHL to bigger sports with more brand power like NFL, NBA and D1 basketball or football doesnt help your argument or make any case what so ever. All different sports with bigger followings and more accesibility, different pace and structure to their sports and athletes, or with shorter schedules like the NFL or D1 sports that arent even remotely similar. The NHL doesnt have anywhere near the draw to any of those to reduce it to such a bad format, and thats the truth. Theres no potential behind any of that.
You keep glazing over two key points:
I am not comparing them to NFL and March Madness, my referencing is to the scheduling format they use and that it is this format that made them as big as they are.
If the NHL uses this format, it could potentially help it to grow to previously unimaginable heights.
You're arguing as if I'm talking of all this happening tomorrow when what I'm positing is a long term gamble- likely multiple decades
And I'm not even suggesting it's a plan thst will ever be implemented because the NHL owners are all in it for the short term but strictly from a pure, long range business plan.
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You keep glazing that format and bringing up why it works for NFL and D1 sports whilst its been explained to you like a hundred-billion and one times as to why its not a format that would work nor have the same profitable effect in the NHL. Its a gamble that wouldnt work and payoff for any sort of pro hockey league trying to operate and make money. Period. If it was, the league and its owners would have been doing it but they are not. Weird, its almost like they know its a format thats not good nor makes money.
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Sunday's epic -- won by Canada 3-2 in overtime -- was the most-watched hockey game since the gold-medal game in 1980, when the United States beat Finland after stunning the Soviet Union in the "Miracle on Ice." That gold-medal game drew 32.8 million.
According to NBC, the game drew an average viewership of 27.6 million and a rating of 15.2, a jump of 45.5 percent from the same matchup at the 2002 Salt Lake City Games. Both gold-medal games were aired midafternoon live.
From 5:30 p.m. ET to 6 p.m. ET, the audience reached its peak, with 34.8 million glued to the TV.
The game, carried in Canada on nine national networks and in eight languages, became the most-watched television broadcast in Canadian history. An average of 16.6 million Canadians, or about half of the nation's population, tuned in.
And about 80 percent of the population, or 26.5 million people, watched at least part of the game.
its not SB numbers but 44m in NA avg
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Yup!
The SB didn't even draw SB numbers right away. SB ads sold for $400K in today's dollars while drawing circa 40M people on average
I have been curious about why the NFL is so far ahead of all other leagues for years and read and watched everything I could.
And the biggest factor is the scheduling format.
They have an entire week to hype the games, get the storyline out there while fans have only to invest a few hours per week.
The SB itself....quadruple regular ratings. How? Why? Because people know a champion will be crowned and so it draws in the most casual of fans.
Even if the NHL peaked at 35M viewers for a SC one and done gsme...a 7 game series would have to average 5 million per game to match
Even here in Canada, thr Grey Cup drew an average of 3.6 million viewers. And this is a league that does 600K during the season.
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Isn't it?
This is why I think it would be worth a gamble per se.
But of course no owner or player is going to sacrifice their own time for distant time.
So it'll never happen but from a purely business strategy perspective......it'd be worth the gamble
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yeah the owners wont gamble until they are certain to winIsn't it?
This is why I think it would be worth a gamble per se.
But of course no owner or player is going to sacrifice their own time for distant time.
So it'll never happen but from a purely business strategy perspective......it'd be worth the gamble
there is a lot of stuff you could do to get ratings up, but it
would go against the politically correct world and the utopia wishful
thinking of people and not the raw reality of human nature.
the only upside to 7 games are that it can go into a crescendo ay gm7 like last year
but thats probably one in ten it could happen
You'd have that same crescendo every year and a Game 7 every year...
Yeah...a Buffalo/Winnipeg match up isn't going to be saved by the format but a lot more casual fans are going to be drawn in since it's only 1 night..
And an advantage a SC final would have in this format over eveb the NHL?
Weather. People could make outdoor BBQ/Parties of it....perhaps even all the NHL teams themselves....get some side money from all these parties
They also- for the same resson- have the entire NA to host it in.
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if it was 1 game, it would be on neutral site? it should be on a NFL stadium then so every final has 100k
It can be a neutral site. Best for logistical purposes so everything can be arranged in advance
Plus you'd be drawing from both teams' fan bases PLUS the diehar general hockey fans to drive prices up
A football stadium would be intriguing. But is even an indoor stadium practical?
Slight nitpick I have because it's a common misconception about 1980 - the medals that year were determined by a final round-robin of four teams. After the miracle upset of the Soviets, the US still could have finished anywhere from winning the gold to not even getting a medal depending on how the remaining two games went (for reference, the Unites States skating to a 2-2 tie with Sweden in the previous round carried over to apply to the standings of the final round). Defeating Finland 4-2 in the final game clinched first place (and therefore a gold medal), also denying Finland any medal, making the game afterwards between the Soviets and Sweden effectively a "silver medal game" in practice. I believe a tie would have resulted in the Soviets taking silver on superior goal difference, but don't quote me on that, although in any case the Soviets won 9-2 to take silver and leave Sweden with the bronze.
On a side note, one of my favorite historical quotes from a coach is when Herb Brooks came into the dressing room after the second period, with the USA trailing Finland 2-1 at the time. He said to the players, "if you lose this game, you'll take it to your f***ing graves." Then he walked towards the door, turned over his shoulder, and said again, "... your f***ing graves!"
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this reminds i have to see the movie, with Kurt Russel as Herb again!
edit, the 32.8m would be around 50m in 2025
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