TV Ratings for WC2025

[PistolPete]

Do a poll keep NHL playing the same, win 16 games or 4 one game winner...it will be shut down in minutes.

Meh!

Of course the majority of current hoxkey fans will vote the marathon- it's whether they grew up with.

But if ya go to a 1 game do or die round, after a few years they'll neber want to go back to a series format at all

There's one thing that separates the NFL from the rest of the leagues per on-field system: 1 game a week.

I am convinced this is what catapulted THE NFL to the top and made them King.

More is less. Limited editions always sell for more because less = more valuable.

Plus, in hockey, man, think of the potential for upsets!

 

[PistolPete]

the WC used to be best of 3 finals

Then they got smart!

 

[Boonk]

Meh!

Of course the majority of current hoxkey fans will vote the marathon- it's whether they grew up with.

But if ya go to a 1 game do or die round, after a few years they'll neber want to go back to a series format at all

There's one thing that separates the NFL from the rest of the leagues per on-field system: 1 game a week.

I am convinced this is what catapulted THE NFL to the top and made them King.

More is less. Limited editions always sell for more because less = more valuable.

Plus, in hockey, man, think of the potential for upsets!

No thanks. International hockey can keep the one game medal round knockouts because it works there for a reason. Nobody wants or needs to see that crap in the Stanley Cup playoffs.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Meh!

Of course the majority of current hoxkey fans will vote the marathon- it's whether they grew up with.

But if ya go to a 1 game do or die round, after a few years they'll neber want to go back to a series format at all

There's one thing that separates the NFL from the rest of the leagues per on-field system: 1 game a week.

I am convinced this is what catapulted THE NFL to the top and made them King.

More is less. Limited editions always sell for more because less = more valuable.

Plus, in hockey, man, think of the potential for upsets!

Why would the league want the cap to lower by 15-20 million, and give up about a billion in revenues.
C’mon stop being facetious.

 

[PistolPete]

Why would the league want the cap to lower by 15-20 million, and give up about a billion in revenues.
C’mon stop being facetious.

Long term gain.

I think in the long run the revenues would not only stay but exceed their current levels.

Less = more and too much = fatigue.

Find that balance and leave the fans wanting just a bit more so that they're invested in every single game.

 

[PistolPete]

No thanks. International hockey can keep the one game medal round knockouts because it works there for a reason. Nobody wants or needs to see that crap in the Stanley Cup playoffs.

They do. They just don't know it.

If they saw a one gsme knockout round they'd never go back to a series

 

[Greatzsky 99]

Never. I shall work until I have converted the entire Hockey Fandom to the doctrine of One Game.

good luck man! taking last year, it was maybe 135k people paying 1k for 7 games
and then 30 million watching, so you would need 30m plus watching and 20k attendance
paying around 10k, for a change to happen, it would be nice for it to happen, as a person
who grew up with different values in a society then money first, it would be a nice change,
i miss a little bit of that

 

[wetcoast]

Meh!

Of course the majority of current hoxkey fans will vote the marathon- it's whether they grew up with.

But if ya go to a 1 game do or die round, after a few years they'll neber want to go back to a series format at all

There's one thing that separates the NFL from the rest of the leagues per on-field system: 1 game a week.

I am convinced this is what catapulted THE NFL to the top and made them King.

Gambling is what has really done it....sadly as lots of non sports fan get caught up in the money aspect of it and simplicity one game a week.

More is less. Limited editions always sell for more because less = more valuable.

Plus, in hockey, man, think of the potential for upsets!

No thanks hockey is random enough as it is I'd rather see the NHL promote skill more than they do right now.

 

[Greatzsky 99]

Then they got smart!

actually im trying to search if this was the case or if im dreaming,

edit: i was kind of right

The 1998 IIHF World Championship was held in Switzerland from 1–17 May 1998. The format expanded to 16 teams for the first time. The teams were divided into four groups of four with the top two teams in each advancing to the next round. The two groups of four then played a round robin with the top two teams in each moving on to the semi-finals. The semi-finals were a two-game total goals for series as was the final.

 

[PistolPete]

Gambling is what has really done it....sadly as lots of non sports fan get caught up in the money aspect of it and simplicity one game a week.

Gambling only became legal recently and gamblers are going to gamble on any game from any league. The NFL may appear differently because- wait for it!- it's one game per week!

No thanks hockey is random enough as it is I'd rather see the NHL promote skill more than they do right now.

Skill would still be there. But now you have huge pressure. No second chances, no mistakes, one bad goal can lead to an early exit.

What is one of the most popular aspects of Marxh Madness? The upsets! The Cinderella stories.

And best of all? No watching two dead tired teams slog it out. Instead, you got 40 sets of rested and raring to go legs ready to shred the ice and bang bodies off the boards all the while wanting to make no mistake which could end up being the difference between going on or going home

 

[stv11]

the WC used to be best of 3 finals
edit: or am i dreaming it was best of 3 for some years?...

They did it in 1997 but gave up because of the logistic issue in organising game 3 on short notice.

They switched to best of 2 in 98 and 99, but then stopped because everyone knows that best of 2 is crap.

EDIT: you best me to it. But that wiki article is wrong as it was best of 2 and not total goal.

 

[PistolPete]

They did it in 1997 but gave up because of the logistic issue in organising game 3 on short notice.

They switched to best of 2 in 98 and 99, but then stopped because everyone knows that best of 2 is crap.

EDIT: you best me to it.

Not a fan of the two game total goals

It's be fine for a regular season format but kills excitement for the PO

 

[wetcoast]

Gambling only became legal recently and gamblers are going to gamble on any game from any league. The NFL may appear differently because- wait for it!- it's one game per week!

Gambling on the NFL has been going on for years as well as fantasy pools involving people who aren't hard core sports fans but more casual go with the flow types.

I know as I participated in both types of pools as far back as 40 years ago and the makeup of the NHL to NFL pools was vastly different.

Only hardcore NHL fans were into hockey pools, the guy down the street was in 2 or 3 NFL pools.

Skill would still be there. But now you have huge pressure. No second chances, no mistakes, one bad goal can lead to an early exit.

What is one of the most popular aspects of Marxh Madness? The upsets! The Cinderella stories.

And best of all? No watching two dead tired teams slog it out. Instead, you got 40 sets of rested and raring to go legs ready to shred the ice and bang bodies off the boards all the while wanting to make no mistake which could end up being the difference between going on or going home

Like I said you selling something people aren't buying here.

 

[PistolPete]

actually im trying to search if this was the case or if im dreaming,

edit: i was kind of right

The 1998 IIHF World Championship was held in Switzerland from 1–17 May 1998. The format expanded to 16 teams for the first time. The teams were divided into four groups of four with the top two teams in each advancing to the next round. The two groups of four then played a round robin with the top two teams in each moving on to the semi-finals. The semi-finals were a two-game total goals for series as was the final.

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Didn't even know that.

Late 90s was a dead zone for me for sports as I was attending university and just got caught up in university life.

I watched the Nagano Olympics because of its novelty and that was about i

Oh wait, I also watched Super Bowls because.........

 

[Summer Rose]

NHL network, i dont know if they showed all games

according to this page they showed it on Fubu, i dont know what that is
a steraming site i guess

IIHF World Championship 2025: Dates, schedule, TV channels, live streams, scores for hockey tournament | Sporting News

Here is everything that you need to know about watching the 2025 IIHF World Championship, including TV and streaming information for the entire tournament.

www.sportingnews.com

Fubo is one of the new "IPTV" providers where they give you access to cable channels via streaming. I hadn't heard of anything about them also broadcasting the games that weren't on "regular" NHL Network.

Speaking of NHL Network, it did seem like they covered more games than previous years, but still not all of them, since they're only one channel and there are games occurring simultaneously. Another problem with NHL Network is that it's one of those "premium" channels where in order to access it, you have to buy an extra package on top of your regular cable/ITPV subscription. Because of that, when an NHL game is on NHL Network, it's still available on the usual channel in the local markets in the US (but as an out of market fan, the one time Utah was on NHL Network this season, the game wasn't available on ESPN+).

Speaking of ESPN+, I noticed very late in the tournament that they were showing a few of the WC games. The only one I ended up watching with it was the Sweden vs. Czech Republic quarterfinal, so I'm not sure how many preliminary round games were available on it.

 

[Greatzsky 99]

Fubo is one of the new "IPTV" providers where they give you access to cable channels via streaming. I hadn't heard of anything about them also broadcasting the games that weren't on "regular" NHL Network.

Speaking of NHL Network, it did seem like they covered more games than previous years, but still not all of them, since they're only one channel and there are games occurring simultaneously. Another problem with NHL Network is that it's one of those "premium" channels where in order to access it, you have to buy an extra package on top of your regular cable/ITPV subscription. Because of that, when an NHL game is on NHL Network, it's still available on the usual channel in the local markets in the US (but as an out of market fan, the one time Utah was on NHL Network this season, the game wasn't available on ESPN+).

Speaking of ESPN+, I noticed very late in the tournament that they were showing a few of the WC games. The only one I ended up watching with it was the Sweden vs. Czech Republic quarterfinal, so I'm not sure how many preliminary round games were available on it.

i dont know how things work in the Tv business, but ESPN should have "bought" the
final and showed it, it was agreat storyline, with first gold chance, the 4 nations, Johnny
etc and in the afternoon in US, i think it could have got 1,5m

 

[Summer Rose]

i dont know how things work in the Tv business, but ESPN should have "bought" the
final and showed it, it was agreat storyline, with first gold chance, the 4 nations, Johnny
etc and in the afternoon in US, i think it could have got 1,5m

It would have been nice, but I believe that in practice it wouldn't have been feasible. I'm sure that because everything's available for the right price, ESPN could have swooped in and bought the rights to the final from NHL Network, but the cost wouldn't have been worth it to them because it would have been impossible to sell enough commercials to recoup whatever the cost might have been on such short notice.

 

[Boonk]

They do. They just don't know it.

If they saw a one gsme knockout round they'd never go back to a series

We do know it, thats precisely why its not a one game knockout. If the Stanley Cup playoffs go to a one game knockout the majority of fans across the league will stop watching.

This is not the NFL and we dont want it to be, so no we actually don't want shitty one and done games in our playoffs

 

[Boonk]

Long term gain.

I think in the long run the revenues would not only stay but exceed their current levels.

Less = more and too much = fatigue.

Find that balance and leave the fans wanting just a bit more so that they're invested in every single game.

Pure fantasy thats not backed up by any facts at all.

 

[Greatzsky 99]

We do know it, thats precisely why its not a one game knockout. If the Stanley Cup playoffs go to a one game knockout the majority of fans across the league will stop watching.

This is not the NFL and we dont want it to be, so no we actually don't want shitty one and done games in our playoffs

one thing we can be sure of is if it would profit NBA and NHL having 1 game, they
would have it by now.

 

[Summer Rose]

one thing we can be sure of is if it would profit NBA and NHL having 1 game, they
would have it by now.

I'd say it's reasonable to assume that a single-game elimination would make each game more profitable. It's just that... there would be far fewer games. For a business parallel, would you rather sell 100 units at a $10 profit each, or would you rather sell 10 units at a $50 profit each? Well... the former is $1,000 in profit and the latter is $500 in profit... I know I'd take the former myself.

 

[HockeyVirus]

Meh!

Of course the majority of current hoxkey fans will vote the marathon- it's whether they grew up with.

But if ya go to a 1 game do or die round, after a few years they'll neber want to go back to a series format at all

There's one thing that separates the NFL from the rest of the leagues per on-field system: 1 game a week.

I am convinced this is what catapulted THE NFL to the top and made them King.

More is less. Limited editions always sell for more because less = more valuable.

Plus, in hockey, man, think of the potential for upsets!

It's just bad though. Oilers won game 1, Panthers were clearly the better team. Leafs won game 1 and 2, Panthers way better late in the series. 7 games truly shows who is the better team

 

[Greatzsky 99]

I'd say it's reasonable to assume that a single-game elimination would make each game more profitable. It's just that... there would be far fewer games. For a business parallel, would you rather sell 100 units at a $10 profit each, or would you rather sell 10 units at a $50 profit each? Well... the former is $1,000 in profit and the latter is $500 in profit... I know I'd take the former myself.

agree, a 1 game could probably boost the economics up to 3 times, but no way6-7 times

 

[Greatzsky 99]

It's just bad though. Oilers won game 1, Panthers were clearly the better team. Leafs won game 1 and 2, Panthers way better late in the series. 7 games truly shows who is the better team

that is also very true, especially in hockey, 7 games is fair, it gives you the best team
for ex. Canada lost to denmark in WC this year, does anybody in the world bet they
would have won a best of seven?

 

[PistolPete]

It's just bad though. Oilers won game 1, Panthers were clearly the better team. Leafs won game 1 and 2, Panthers way better late in the series. 7 games truly shows who is the better team

The playoffs are a tournament, not a determination of who is the best team.

The RS is better suited as a measure of who the best team is.

The SCPO are simply a brief tournament designed to apply pressure to teams as the room for mistakes is much less and the role of luck and chance much higher.

Anyone who thinks the Florida Panthers are the best team in hockey because they won rhe Cup is confusing winning a tournament with determining the best team.

If the NHL did multiple SCPO during the same season, would anyone expect the same team wins all of them? So if you have different winners, how can any of them be deemed the best team?

So the long series becomes irrelevant since the whole thing isn't designed to ascertain the best team.