Player Discussion Tuukka Rask - V - warning in OP

[GloryDaze4877]

I'll never understand why people only look at the goal totals vs the quality of goals allowed. I also laugh that people ignore Halak coming in and having a few go in as well. The team in front of our goalies last night was just bad. I don't know that any goalie in the NHL would have kept us in that game last night.

Rask got absolutely shelled in the first period and he was the only reason the B’s were not down more than 2-0.

That doesn’t fit the agenda though.

 

[ON3M4N]

Rask got absolutely shelled in the first period and he was the only reason the B’s were not down more than 2-0.

That doesn’t fit the agenda though.

That game could have easily been 4/5-0 after the 1st period if not for Rask. You're right though, that doesn't fit the agenda. Looks like Backes will be added to the public enemy list this year lol. I'd be interested to see who the top 3 most hated Bruins are by the forum.

 

[The don godfather]

Rask looked bad last night I know the whole team in from of him was horrendous but rask was not up to task especially the first shot.

 

[LouJersey]

Rask rebounded ok but again, two early stops were needed, but doesn't always work out that way. If that's the goaltending this team is going to get this year then I'd cancel those play-off plans. he and the rest of the team seemed to come out really flat.

 

[Baddkarma]

Rask didn't have a chance last night.

The Bruins were beyond terrible. This team in front of Rask is small, slow, and not ready for the season in large part based on the beyond stupid China expedition. Zero team chemistry last night and playing the SC Champs no less.

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

never change certain posters...never change.

love that it's Rask's fault the team never got off the bus and ran around like chickens with their heads cut off.

if you're banking on your goalie to make multiple 2 on 0 or 3 on 1 saves to keep you in the game, then your goalie is not the issue

 

[Krupp]

That game could have easily been 4/5-0 after the 1st period if not for Rask. You're right though, that doesn't fit the agenda. Looks like Backes will be added to the public enemy list this year lol. I'd be interested to see who the top 3 most hated Bruins are by the forum.

Tis quite obvious, if you look at the signs...

Backes
Krejci
Rask

And maybe Gryz, assuming he doesn't play well these first few weeks. But those three definitely. And I'd be lying if I said I love Krejci, but i've never been overly fond of him as a top 6 center, despite that he's always done his duty when he can

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

Tis quite obvious, if you look at the signs...

Backes
Krejci
Rask

And maybe Gryz, assuming he doesn't play well these first few weeks. But those three definitely. And I'd be lying if I said I love Krejci, but i've never been overly fond of him as a top 6 center, despite that he's always done his duty when he can

I'd extend the list to 4 and add Krug.

All we've heard for a while is harping on every mistake he makes, ignoring all the good and claiming he's expendable because Gryz will somehow magically replace him because of "advanced stats"

 

[ON3M4N]

Tis quite obvious, if you look at the signs...

Backes
Krejci
Rask

And maybe Gryz, assuming he doesn't play well these first few weeks. But those three definitely. And I'd be lying if I said I love Krejci, but i've never been overly fond of him as a top 6 center, despite that he's always done his duty when he can

Idk, Kuraly seems to be gaining steam as is Nordstrom. I think Moore is another guy in contention

 

[Krupp]

Maybe, but Backes and Krejci seem to get flamed on every week. Kuraly has been liked as a fourth liner. And in all fairness to him, if that's where he'd be playing right now, and not on the third line, I doubt anybody would have any complaints about him.

Unfortunately, if you're making a lot of money, on a salary cap team, and you're not dominating or playing great every time out, people are gonna question you. That's what's happening with Backes and Krejci.

Backes was a gamble when they originally brought him in. Me personally I was hopeful he'd still have some good years behind him. I'm hoping he shakes off last night and plays well next time out

 

[DarrenBanks56]

Rask rebounded ok but again, two early stops were needed, but doesn't always work out that way. If that's the goaltending this team is going to get this year then I'd cancel those play-off plans. he and the rest of the team seemed to come out really flat.

exactly. The first 2 goals should not go in.
First one took him forever to get post to post on a cross ice pass. Brutal goal.

 

[JOKER 192]

Rask rebounded ok but again, two early stops were needed, but doesn't always work out that way. If that's the goaltending this team is going to get this year then I'd cancel those play-off plans. he and the rest of the team seemed to come out really flat.

Exactly, that is not the kind of goal tending you are going anywhere with. It's always the same posters that will defend Rask no matter how bad he plays. He wasn't the only one who had a bad game but to call his play extremely sharp is nothing short of delusional .

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

Exactly, that is not the kind of goal tending you are going anywhere with. It's always the same posters that will defend Rask no matter how bad he plays. He wasn't the only one who had a bad game but to call his play extremely sharp is nothing short of delusional .

almost as delusional as making up things that werent said.

No one said Rask was sharp or even good...what posters are pointing out is that he was not the problem last night. No goalie in the league wins you that game last night

 

[Seidenbergy]

If that's the goaltending this team is going to get this year then I'd cancel those play-off plans.

If that's the defending and goal scoring this team is going to get this year, then I'd cancel those playoff plans.

 

[LouJersey]

If that's the defending and goal scoring this team is going to get this year, then I'd cancel those playoff plans.

Absolutely agree.

All three facets sucked big time, yet the goalie, as always gets a pass because he actually held the fort for 15 minutes after giving up 2 goals that you HAVE to stop.

 

[BMC]

Rask did not have a good game. For some reason he does not play well against the Caps and that goes for his teammates as well.

This happens in sports- one team will "own" another. It's 100% psychological IMO. It lasts for awhile then the "owned" team eventually breaks through.

Hey it took us 45 years to break through vs the Hated Habs in the playoffs. It's only been 4 with the Caps. Think positive!!!!

 

[Seidenbergy]

Absolutely agree.

All three facets sucked big time, yet the goalie, as always gets a pass because he actually held the fort for 15 minutes after giving up 2 goals that you HAVE to stop.

The goalie, as always, gets a pass?!?! Where is this happening? Certainly not on this board. Look at the bump of this very thread. Look at all the posts in this very thread. Tuukka has taken more blame than anyone else on the team since he's been here.

Let's be clear: NOBODY here is giving Tuukka a pass for last night. The closest I've seen to this is folks saying that no goalie would've beaten the Caps last night, given what was going on in front of the goalie. That's not a pass. That's simply providing context. I'll repeat what most have been saying all along, but the haters like to ignore for some strange reason: Rask wasn't great last night, just like the rest of the team. He needs to be better, just like the rest of the team. He wasn't solely responsible for the loss last night, just like any other player on the team wasn't single-handedly responsible for the loss last night.

 

[Glove Malfunction]

Exactly, that is not the kind of goal tending you are going anywhere with. It's always the same posters that will defend Rask no matter how bad he plays. He wasn't the only one who had a bad game but to call his play extremely sharp is nothing short of delusional .

I haven't read the entire thread, or even the portion starting last night. Did anyone actually call his play "extremely sharp"? Or is that just yet another strawman that seems to pop up when discussing Rask?

 

[LouJersey]

The goalie, as always, gets a pass?!?! Where is this happening? Certainly not on this board. Look at the bump of this very thread. Look at all the posts in this very thread. Tuukka has taken more blame than anyone else on the team since he's been here.

Let's be clear: NOBODY here is giving Tuukka a pass for last night. The closest I've seen to this is folks saying that no goalie would've beaten the Caps last night, given what was going on in front of the goalie. That's not a pass. That's simply providing context. I'll repeat what most have been saying all along, but the haters like to ignore for some strange reason: Rask wasn't great last night, just like the rest of the team. He needs to be better, just like the rest of the team. He wasn't solely responsible for the loss last night, just like any other player on the team wasn't single-handedly responsible for the loss last night.

team came out flat, goalie let up two immediate, stoppable goals. Did that set the tone for the night? Dunno.

There are facts that cannot be disputed IMO. Rask takes far too much crap at times, and Rask is also mediocre. There is a load of mediocre goalies in the league. Both I think are facts at this point.

 

[BruinDust]

team came out flat, goalie let up two immediate, stoppable goals. Did that set the tone for the night? Dunno.

There are facts that cannot be disputed IMO. Rask takes far too much crap at times, and Rask is also mediocre. There is a load of mediocre goalies in the league. Both I think are facts at this point.

You don't seriously think Rask had any chance on that one-timer from Oshie?

Rask has good nights and bad just like any goaltender in the league today. I don't see a load of mediocre goalies in the league at all, but I see about 15-20 guys where there isn't a whole lot of separation between the No.1 guy and the No.20 guy. I don't see any goaltender in the sport today who is even close to being unquestionably "the man" as far as goaltenders go.

Rask gives this team a chance to win most nights. He went what almost 3 months last season without a regulation loss?

 

[Seidenbergy]

You don't seriously think Rask had any chance on that one-timer from Oshie?

"It's a fact that cannot be disputed"

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

team came out flat, goalie let up two immediate, stoppable goals. Did that set the tone for the night? Dunno.

There are facts that cannot be disputed IMO. Rask takes far too much crap at times, and Rask is also mediocre. There is a load of mediocre goalies in the league. Both I think are facts at this point.

oh FFS

2 stoppable goals? really?

what exactly is stoppable about a rebound goal by a player on the edge of the crease with no one around him? Where were the defenders?

and what is stoppable about a cross ice 1 timer? again, how does the defense allow that pass to be made?

but you also claim "Rask is mediocre" is a fact, so that says all we need to know about the validity of your opinions on the matter

 

[LouJersey]

oh FFS

2 stoppable goals? really?

what exactly is stoppable about a rebound goal by a player on the edge of the crease with no one around him? Where were the defenders?

and what is stoppable about a cross ice 1 timer? again, how does the defense allow that pass to be made?

How slow was Rask on his lateral movement there? Did you see it? How about reading the play?

Rebound? There was only a rebound because he totally misplayed a bouncing puck (shocker, never saw that before)

2 very stoppable goals. Hey they go in sometimes, I get it.

 

[BruinDust]

team came out flat, goalie let up two immediate, stoppable goals. Did that set the tone for the night? Dunno.

There are facts that cannot be disputed IMO. Rask takes far too much crap at times, and Rask is also mediocre. There is a load of mediocre goalies in the league. Both I think are facts at this point.

oh FFS

2 stoppable goals? really?

what exactly is stoppable about a rebound goal by a player on the edge of the crease with no one around him? Where were the defenders?

and what is stoppable about a cross ice 1 timer? again, how does the defense allow that pass to be made?

but you also claim "Rask is mediocre" was a fact, so that says all we need to know about the validity of your opinions on the matter

It's half-amazing Oshie even hit the net on that shot. He was practically in corner on a terrible angle, yet was able to place that puck in the net off a one-timer from that angle and distance.

The 2nd goal you could argue there shouldn't of even been a rebound, even if the Bruins team D did nothing to prevent Kuznetsov from grabbing the rebound and stuffing it home.

 

[BruinDust]

How slow was Rask on his lateral movement there? Did you see it? How about reading the play?

Rebound? There was only a rebound because he totally misplayed a bouncing puck (shocker, never saw that before)

2 very stoppable goals. Hey they go in sometimes, I get it.

From where Oshie was standing, and where the puck came from, zero chance Rask even saw Oshie standing there. He's almost in the corner on the goal line.

C'mon Lou, your better than this.