Agreed. He scores at about #60 for centers, which is a low end #2C or a high end #3C. For $4.82M and a big body who plays defense, that's not a bad deal. But for sure if you already have good center depth he could be a surplus piece. Not so for the Canes, and I'm not sure why we would include KK in the trade at all.
This is all speculative made up crap. The furthest any of this should go is that the Canes tried to get Boeser late and it didn’t happen. Blaming the Canes for why it didn’t happen is comical yet people here are doing it.
doesn’t stop Tulsky from negotiating the framework of the deal in principal and having the paperwork ready for if/when the Rantanen deal went through.
in what world does he score at about a 60th best center rate? It isnt the real one. Dude isn't really even a 30 point center. What does that make Filip Chytil and Pius Suter? Top 40 Centers?
He hasn't even been there for a full year and you wanna give him credit for building a top 3 team in the east? All he is known for is f***ing up the Rantanen trade.
I don’t blame him. I think it sucks the Canes had to wait till the last minute but I don’t hate on Rants for that. I do wonder if there’s some gamesmanship being played by the Stars there as the Canes other moves may have affected something they didn’t like so maybe they did take their time getting the paperwork in. I think you generalize the deadline too much, assuming a team would wait on the Canes. They could have the framework of a deal in place but teams don’t want to wait around. They usually have multiple offers for a player and when the Canes couldn’t make a deal yet the other teams went in other directions. You’ve heard yourself of the Canes having offers from two or three other teams on Rants. The players the Canes wanted likely had similar situations surrounding them.
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was responding to a post specifically about the Boeser offer that apparently never got off the ground — agree with you 100% that the Rantanen sign/trade dragging on until the 11th hour would’ve precluded them from competing for other trade targets who had multiple suitors.
Sounds like a gross simplification of Vancouver’s situation. By all accounts Boeser was shopped with no takers. They decided it wasn’t worth moving him for less than a first and I can’t say I blame them.
End of the day they lost Necas for picks and Stankoven who is .5ppg . Not exactly an amazing move on their behalf. Colorado must be laughing their asses off.
Moving Necas, who takes a lot of risks and showed no desire to stay beyond next year, was addition by subtraction. He was not very compatible with Rod’s system, a system that seems to be quite successful. RBA achieved 300 wins faster than any other coach in NHL history.
I meant even strength points. He is currently 72nd among centers, but the NHL.com list includes Guentzel, Roslovic, Jarvis, and a whole bunch of players who are actually wingers.
Yup. The offer as described by Daliwal was actually saying Boeser had negative value, even though he’s a rental.
Nobody and I mean nobody except maybe you evaluates a player with only even strength points. That means kotkaniemi is one of the worst pp players as he’s not even in the top 150 for centers. Sure that includes a lot of wingers. So you could say he’s probably not even top 120. That means teams are better off calling up their best AHL center and likely be better off on the powerplay.
