Harold Bingo
what
Time to REALLY shake up the lines!
Giroux Couts Vinny
Hartnell Vinny Read
McGinn Schenn Simmonds
Vinny's gonna be tired.
Time to REALLY shake up the lines!
Giroux Couts Vinny
Hartnell Vinny Read
McGinn Schenn Simmonds
Time to REALLY shake up the lines!
Giroux Couts Vinny
Hartnell Vinny Read
McGinn Schenn Simmonds
I do not understand how, in only two seasons' time, a true powerhouse offense can dwindle and regress to the point where simple passing and shooting are tremendous struggles.
I do not understand how, in only two seasons' time, a true powerhouse offense can dwindle and regress to the point where simple passing and shooting are tremendous struggles.
Because Holmgren doesn't know how to be measured with his approaches.
Goalie sucks...ok let's surround him with stay at home types and trade away or let go some of our offensive catalysts....
Guy is one big abject failure. Let's get rid of this high stakes poker player GM who has devolved into a chinese checker player and get somebody who knows how to play chess...
I had a feeling that new username floating about would be you.
This may be a really stupid question, but is it possible to just flat out find a new owner?
Nope.
I mean there are ways, but none of them are realistically going to happen any time soon.
Is he the longest single owner of a team in history?
I do not understand how, in only two seasons' time, a true powerhouse offense can dwindle and regress to the point where simple passing and shooting are tremendous struggles.
Two years ago we didn't have Richards, Carter, or Pronger, and Carle was statistically a detriment offensively. We also had essentially the same team we have now, but with Jagr...though he was more of an anchor for the second half of the season. They were still dominant offensively.
I don't recall that team too well, but didn't that also involve a lot of career seasons as well as the games of Hartnell and Simmonds not falling off a cliff?
Two years ago we didn't have Richards, Carter, or Pronger, and Carle was statistically a detriment offensively. We also had essentially the same team we have now, but with Jagr...though he was more of an anchor for the second half of the season. They were still dominant offensively.
Two years ago we didn't have Richards, Carter, or Pronger, and Carle was statistically a detriment offensively. We also had essentially the same team we have now, but with Jagr...though he was more of an anchor for the second half of the season. They were still dominant offensively.
There's so much that has gone wrong with the team that it's seriously hard to pin down. Even last year, when Lavi's system was collapsing, it was clear that terrible individual play was also a major factor, and that has only gotten worse. There are flaws with team construction, there were flaws with coaching and with how the GM handled it, but that still doesn't explain how so many of the players themselves have come to suck at even the most basic hockey functions.
I would love to know if any team with largely the same players has ever had such an epic offensive regression, and with the team at such a young age to boot.
We've regressed back to that point during the Stevens era where if we don't do well on the PP, we're ****ed....and our PP sucks. During the high point of Laviolette's tenure (basically 10-11), we were really good in all situations.
That 10-11 team might actually be the best Flyers team -- top to bottom -- I've seen (born in '87). Blows my mind that people thought it was a good idea to dismantle it. Think about that 11-12 NHL playoffs, too. Wide, wide open, and I don't think that Devils team beats that 2011 Flyers team.
Just speaking for myself but I don't think it's a mystery. Can't expect any offensive contribution from the back-end and we have one or two guys on offense that would be actually expected to score 30 G even in a normal season. The majority of our forwards lean towards passing, assisting, and play making more then anything. Hartnell and Simmonds are the type of players to score garbage goals, but even if they were both performing we can't expect two lesser offensive players that are limited to scoring goals in pretty much one fashion to carry the goal production. Matt Read is also probably our best two-way forward. I love Read and he might be my favorite Flyers player right now, but even in a good season we can only expect like 20 to 25 G and 50 to 55 P. That's very sad that he's our best two-way presence at forward.
I mean that's all well and good, but it doesn't explain why everyone on the roster is struggling so much with skating with the puck, passing into players' skates, receiving passes when they aren't awful, and hitting the net. That's what I'm getting at. There is a fundamental regression in basic hockey skills that goes beyond team construction and such.
Just speaking for myself but I don't think it's a mystery. Can't expect any offensive contribution from the back-end and we have one or two guys on offense that would be actually expected to score 30 G even in a normal season. The majority of our forwards lean towards passing, assisting, and play making more then anything. Hartnell and Simmonds are the type of players to score garbage goals, but even if they were both performing we can't expect two lesser offensive players that are limited to scoring goals in pretty much one fashion to carry the goal production. Matt Read is also probably our best two-way forward. I love Read and he might be my favorite Flyers player right now, but even in a good season we can only expect like 20 to 25 G and 50 to 55 P. That's very sad that he's our best two-way presence at forward.
Our D can't skate with the puck for the most part and the vast majority of our players I wouldn't describe as shooters.
Then there's also the fact that the coaching situation has been completely mishandled and that their confidence should be non-existent right now.