I liked Sean quite a lot. He was definitely different. The year he went to Dallas and then came back--the team he came back to had almost no personality--just letting things happen to them--all of a sudden Sean's there and every game is a war again. Talent will only take you so far. To win--to really win you have to go to war. There has to be players willing to get nasty. And I always thought his interviews were terrific--not the usual bland rah rah type of crap that's spouted out all the time.
Saying that--his game was declining--how much Torts had to do with that if anything is debatable. I'm not sure he wasn't just losing interest either.
He was playing a part, not being honest. Similar to what Charlie Sheen was doing and Howard Stern has done for decades. Its just a bit, and they do it well, that's why it seems so natural. The narcissism takes over. Jagr was like this too, but in a different way. He sulked and withdrew when he wasn't getting his way.
And I never thought he got 'nasty', just annoying.
Don't get me wrong, having said all this, I think the guy was entertaining, but I don't ever want someone that selfish on the team again, I watch hockey to watch hockey
Its quite humorous to me that so many people have serious emotional angst over him. He accomplished exactly what he set out to accomplish. Avery is going to make more money outside of hockey than players of his skill level make on the ice and he's going to do it without taking a physical beating every single night. Not to mention he's probably going to be spending a significant portion of his time in the company of highly attractive women. The fact that you are morally offended by things he did on the ice that were not directed at you and did not have any relevance to you at all is probably the most humorous thing in this thread so far.
Ha, this is rich.
Morally offended? I've done things in my life much worse than what Avery did on and off the ice. I just never did them at work. Theres a time and a place for everything, and Avery got what was coming to him.
As a fan of the Rangers, his BS did effect me, especially in his latter days here where he was as selfish and stubborn as ever. The goal of a hockey team is not to entertain through WWE tactics.
Exactly BRB, he did them as a Ranger, as a team member, not on his own dime and time.
Sad that the conversation now is still about the clown and not about why he was actually needed to give life to this organization at that time in the first place.
I was offended when Bertuzzi made pretend Moore's dome was a baseball.
I teared up when Richter retired. Also when his jersey was hung up on the rafters.
You watch this game, and team long enough, you're going to get emotionally attached. You're going to form opinions on the players.
Fact is Avery did have a fine NHL career. But, he could have been 10X more successful if he didn't try and take the nonsense to a different level. We both know what I mean by that.
There's nothing wrong with stating facts. There's also nothing wrong with being offended by what the players representing your team do. I've been a Ranger fan longer than some players currently playing on the team. It's my right to express how I feel about their careers, and whether or not I'm offended by something they said or did.
Who are you to try and take that away from anyone here?
Well said.
The game did not push him out. He pushed the game away.
Absolutely.