Value of: Trouba vs. RNH

[10Ducky10]

RNH and Nurse for Trouba, Lowry and a 1st in 2018 or Nic Petan.

 

[Homesick]

RNH and Nurse for Trouba, Lowry and a 1st in 2018 or Nic Petan.

Nooooope! and

 

[Hunter368]

RNH and Nurse for Trouba, Lowry and a 1st in 2018 or Nic Petan.

Hell no ducky, no freaking chance

 

[tbcwpg]

Do you see a top 4 D to replace Toby in two years when his contract runs out?

Morrissey. LHD is a hole, never said it wasn't, but we're going to need a replacement for Little if he ends up going as a UFA at the end of next season.

 

[underdog]

RNH and Nurse for Trouba, Lowry and a 1st in 2018 or Nic Petan.

Haha, Nurse is looking like a beast in the making. He's not going anywhere. So glad he wasn't traded to Boston for Hamilton.

 

[LTIR]

RNH and Nurse for Trouba, Lowry and a 1st in 2018 or Nic Petan.

Draisaitl + Puljujarvi for Byfuglien +Lowry

WPG adds buddies of Morrisey and Laine
EdM becomes a legit playoffs team at the cost of future.

 

[McFlyingV]

Draisaitl + Puljujarvi for Byfuglien +Lowry

WPG adds buddies of Morrisey and Laine
EdM becomes a legit playoffs team at the cost of future.

Easy pass from this Oilers fan. As good as Buf is, his contract is a tough one to swallow into his late 30's, and Lowry doesn't even come close to making up the value difference between Buf and Drai+Pulju

 

[Hunter368]

Morrissey. LHD is a hole, never said it wasn't, but we're going to need a replacement for Little if he ends up going as a UFA at the end of next season.

Is Josh playing both top and 2nd pairing? 2C are easier to find then top pairing D

 

[LTIR]

Easy pass from this Oilers fan. As good as Buf is, his contract is a tough one to swallow into his late 30's, and Lowry doesn't even come close to making up the value difference between Buf and Drai+Pulju

Buff is signed for 4 more seasons and would be in his mid 30s at the end of it. 35?
Lowry replaces Drai as 3C and Buff puts us over the top.

 

[Ducks in a row]

Trouba 1000% has more value. At this point, his upside is higher.

No Trouba doesn't have 1000% more value. Trouba upside might or might not be higher. RNH upside is a two-way #1C and we know how people on these boards love such players.

Why? That would set up your top 4 defensemen for the next 5-10 years with him, KLefbom and Larsson. You already have your two first line centers in Drai and Mcdavid longterm. Do you really want a 6 million player as your 3rd line center longterm? Finding a good 3rd line center as a ufa or in a trade without giving up alot shouldnt be very hard. Edm is one of few teams that can protect 4 defensemen in the draft without it beeing a huge loss exposing alot of the forwards. Would make ALOT of sense for Edm and you would suddenly have a GREAT defensive core going forward. I think it would be a no-brainer for Chia to do that deal!

Trouba signed a bridge deal and has looked like he wants out of Canada Oilers shouldn't trade for him because 5-10 years of having him seems so very unlikely.

RNH is the second best player on the team and is a huge factor on Mcdavid's development. People love Draisaitl's size but he's not at RNH's level yet. That being said, Trouba is probably the 2nd most valuable player on the Jets and should be their future top pairing defenceman.

No he isn't and he will probably be traded by then with him not being that happy in Canada.

 

[La Bamba]

Tyler Seguin disagrees

Tyler Seguin was a winger in Boston.

Even when he was traded, they still had Bergeron, Krejci, and Soderberg.

 

[10Ducky10]

Hell no ducky, no freaking chance

Why not?
We get a great two way center and an expansion draft exempt D man that is only a year or so behind Trouba in terms of development. They get a 1RHD, Petan and a starting 3C. In no order...

Ehlers Scheif Laine
Perreault RNH Armia
Connor Little Wheeler
Tanev Copp Dano

Nurse Myers
Morrissey Buff
Enstrom Postma

Helle Hutch

 

[McSuper]

Why not?
We get a great two way center and an expansion draft exempt D man that is only a year or so behind Trouba in terms of development. They get a 1RHD, Petan and a starting 3C. In no order...

Ehlers Scheif Laine
Perreault RNH Armia
Connor Little Wheeler
Tanev Copp Dano

Nurse Myers
Morrissey Buff
Enstrom Postma

Helle Hutch

Does not matter as the Oilers say know quicker then it took to call them with the offer .

 

[NewLife]

Why? That would set up your top 4 defensemen for the next 5-10 years with him, KLefbom and Larsson. You already have your two first line centers in Drai and Mcdavid longterm. Do you really want a 6 million player as your 3rd line center longterm? Finding a good 3rd line center as a ufa or in a trade without giving up alot shouldnt be very hard. Edm is one of few teams that can protect 4 defensemen in the draft without it beeing a huge loss exposing alot of the forwards. Would make ALOT of sense for Edm and you would suddenly have a GREAT defensive core going forward. I think it would be a no-brainer for Chia to do that deal!

Are you sure, will he stay for them for more than two years? Can't do this trade unless you absolutely sure he is committed to their team and city.

 

[LTIR]

Why not?
We get a great two way center and an expansion draft exempt D man that is only a year or so behind Trouba in terms of development. They get a 1RHD, Petan and a starting 3C. In no order...

Ehlers Scheif Laine
Perreault RNH Armia
Connor Little Wheeler
Tanev Copp Dano

Nurse Myers
Morrissey Buff
Enstrom Postma

Helle Hutch

Dr.Drai is stinking the joint righr now.. no way Chia trades RNH till Drai becomes a consistent player.. might not be for another full year..
Also.. Oilers now value Nurse higher than someone like Trouba.. Nurse is starting to take over from Klefbom as the best LD on the team.. He has already surpassed Sekera. Nurse = Trouba.. RNH vs Lowry is not close.

 

[Burnt Biscuits]

Dr.Drai is stinking the joint righr now.. no way Chia trades RNH till Drai becomes a consistent player.. might not be for another full year..
Also.. Oilers now value Nurse higher than someone like Trouba.. Nurse is starting to take over from Klefbom as the best LD on the team.. He has already surpassed Sekera. Nurse = Trouba.. RNH vs Lowry is not close.

Nurse is playing much better, but let's not overhype him, small sample sizes and all that.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

RNH and Nurse for Trouba, Lowry and a 1st in 2018 or Nic Petan.

Why would you trade RNH+Nurse for Trouba+Lowry+1st? When it's quite clear that Trouba wouldn't commit long term to Edmonton.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Why not?
We get a great two way center and an expansion draft exempt D man that is only a year or so behind Trouba in terms of development. They get a 1RHD, Petan and a starting 3C. In no order...

Ehlers Scheif Laine
Perreault RNH Armia
Connor Little Wheeler
Tanev Copp Dano

Nurse Myers
Morrissey Buff
Enstrom Postma

Helle Hutch

Chia isn't going to deal either one of RNH or Nurse if Trouba isn't going to commit long term with Edmonton, And i'm pretty sure he wont.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Sekera+ for Trouba makes more sense if Sekera waives his NMC

Doesn't matter if Sekera waives his NMC, Because Kevin Cheveldayoff wont accept Sekera in a trade for Trouba. And by all indications Trouba wont commit long term with Edmonton any ways.

 

[These Are The Days]

All the respect in the world for RNH but the guy is a rich man's Val Filppula. At the rate McDavid and Draisaitl are developing I would trade RNH for a player of Trouba's caliber in a heartbeat before he is looked upon as expendable. The success of the Oilers gives precious value to RNH that he otherwise may not have kept if they continued to fail and McDavid and Draisaitl continued to produce so much more than RNH. Success magnifies all the little things a player does well.

The Oilers are already so much better off with Lucic and Larsson. It's not a coincidence that they are turning it around now. A guy like Trouba would be invaluable

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

Flames fan saying RNH has quite a bit more value. Trouba is not nearly as proven and has shown he has attitude issues. RNH is really underrated because he plays on the Oilers. He's very Sam Reinhart like.

 

[LTIR]

Nurse is playing much better, but let's not overhype him, small sample sizes and all that.

Its not about his sample size.. factor in expansion exempt.. his attitude upwards trend and salary and he has as much value as Trouba if not more.

 

[10Ducky10]

First of all, Trouba is ahead of Nurse but even if they are equal, a RHD is worth more than a LHD.
Drai needs the minutes as a 2C.
The trade benefits both teams.

 

[McWeber]

First of all, Trouba is ahead of Nurse but even if they are equal, a RHD is worth more than a LHD.
Drai needs the minutes as a 2C.
The trade benefits both teams.

There is nothing wrong with competition at C, honestly I would like to see us add depth to the position. I agree with RHD being worth more but Nurse being expansion exempt makes him an asset we need to keep so that our blueline doesn't take as big of a hit at the expansion draft. After the draft this trade may make more sense with the added roster flexibility but right now this trade could set the Oilers back.

 

[McFlyingV]

Buff is signed for 4 more seasons and would be in his mid 30s at the end of it. 35?
Lowry replaces Drai as 3C and Buff puts us over the top.

I thought the contract was a year or 2 longer, but he'll still be 36 before the end of the season by the time his contracts up.

Lowry is no answer at 3C at this point. His offence hasn't translated to the NHL yet, and it may never. Not giving up Puljujarvi and Draisaitl for that, sorry its an awful deal.