Value of: Trouba vs. RNH
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WesMcCauley
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Why? That would set up your top 4 defensemen for the next 5-10 years with him, KLefbom and Larsson. You already have your two first line centers in Drai and Mcdavid longterm. Do you really want a 6 million player as your 3rd line center longterm? Finding a good 3rd line center as a ufa or in a trade without giving up alot shouldnt be very hard. Edm is one of few teams that can protect 4 defensemen in the draft without it beeing a huge loss exposing alot of the forwards. Would make ALOT of sense for Edm and you would suddenly have a GREAT defensive core going forward. I think it would be a no-brainer for Chia to do that deal!
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Who would you protect come the expansion draft? Sekera has a ntc or mmc. Larsson and Klefbom will be protected. Also, most people don't realize just how valuable RNH is to the Oilers. I'd go as far as to say he's our 2nd most important forward, behind only McDavid.
Edit: Also, he's our 2nd line centre. Draisaitl hasn't proven himself. Few more years at least I think.
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I honestly believe RNH has been the best player on the team not named Connor this season. He is tenacious on the back check and is who you send out when you need to shut down the other teams top line.
WesMcCauley
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Say they traded RNH+ for Trouba:
Trouba
Klefbom
Larsson
Sekera
Eberle
Lucic
Drai
pouliot/maroon/?
It wouldnt be a problem for Edm to protect 8 skaters instead of 7F+3D.
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Moving rnh leaves the oilers with very inexperienced C and offers no protection from injuries. Rnh has been a very important player for the oilers this year.
Trouba is rumoured to not want to play in Canada. No point in losing rnh for a guy that will bolt as soon as he can.
McMozesmadness
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Our forward depth took a hit this summer. Its still really good but losing Nuge would hurt. I don't think people realize how important he is to our team. His defensive ability is amazing for his age.
With that said, Trouba would round out our D so damn well.
Very conflicted about this deal, but I'd have to pass.
With that said, Trouba would round out our D so damn well.
Very conflicted about this deal, but I'd have to pass.
RNH is only a year older and has proven effective in a 2nd line two way center role. I'd say he has more value overall. To the Oilers it gets a bit more interesting as they have Dras and McDavid down the middle. Thus Trouba has more value to them. Trouba is also more valuable to the Jets due to Scheifele and Wheeler already making up a decent top 2 tandem.
It's so weird that Trouba gets to cover up any little mistake he makes due to age but RNH had already peaked last year when he was approximately the same. Trouba is viewed as a young up and coming defensemen while RNH is seen as a fringe number two center who never really came into his own. Then again, Mackinnon is supposedly a bust so what can you do?
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After years of wandering in the desert, the Oilers have actual depth at center. Having RNH makes it infinitely harder to line match against them on the road, allows Draisaitl to develop in a soft minutes environment, and provides protection from inevitable injuries. That is gold, and they should cling to that position like a cat to carpet - even if there are times when dimwits will bleat about $6M "3rd line center" blah blah blah. Save money on the wings. Win with depth up the middle and top 4 D. Period. Eberle and Pouliot, capable players both, should go long before Nuge when budget constraints come in the future.
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Has rnh really been that effective? Does he win his matchups or does he just get alot of opportunity where the team fails to have success?
I've seen rnh get to qb the pp... but how effective has the pp been with him as qb? How many points does rnh amass with his 20 mins of icetime and the best linemates the team has for him?
How many nights does the game end and we talk about rnh being dominant?
I believe he is capable to be sure and can fill a role but to call him proven as an effective top 2 line forward is premature imo... I fear he will always be undersized to be a great defensive player... and if he can't be counted on for 20 goals 65 points while getting 20 mins of ice and pp time than he's rather average offensively too and that makes him still a work in progress.
He has talent and i believe is worth gambling on but imho trouba has more value
a 1 for 1 doesn't work but the value could be found to balance this. Maybe Winnipeg takes back sekera who would lose his spot to trouble anyhow? Maybe Winnipeg throws in a pick? theres ways to make this happen
Of course the theory is trouba wants to go to USA. Edmonton isn't in usa
I've seen rnh get to qb the pp... but how effective has the pp been with him as qb? How many points does rnh amass with his 20 mins of icetime and the best linemates the team has for him?
How many nights does the game end and we talk about rnh being dominant?
I believe he is capable to be sure and can fill a role but to call him proven as an effective top 2 line forward is premature imo... I fear he will always be undersized to be a great defensive player... and if he can't be counted on for 20 goals 65 points while getting 20 mins of ice and pp time than he's rather average offensively too and that makes him still a work in progress.
He has talent and i believe is worth gambling on but imho trouba has more value
a 1 for 1 doesn't work but the value could be found to balance this. Maybe Winnipeg takes back sekera who would lose his spot to trouble anyhow? Maybe Winnipeg throws in a pick? theres ways to make this happen
Of course the theory is trouba wants to go to USA. Edmonton isn't in usa
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No interest in rnh or any other non elite or potential elite forward for Trouba. Trouba is much more valuable to the Jets at D then anything rnh can do for us. No need for rnh.
If we trade Trouba at some point it will be for lhd or D prospect. No thx to rnh.
If we trade Trouba at some point it will be for lhd or D prospect. No thx to rnh.
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Eastern teams, especially Leafs fans got more exposure to Nuge and were high on his game at the World Cup.
Nuge plays the type of game where you have to watch how good he is defensively against top lines to appreciate.
Nuge is rounding out into an extremely effective two way forward. While he is not the elite offensive threat that they were hoping he would be when drafted, he is an extremely important piece for the Oilers going forwards. The combination of him and McDavid at C give the Oilers one of the best 1-2 punches in the league.
I think he has more value than Trouba.
I think he has more value than Trouba.
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Because Draisaitl has a ways to go still in his development, and what Nuge does for our team defensively while still providing quality offence (snakebitten so far to start the year) is extremely valuable to us. I'd take Trouba on our team sure, but Nurse has really stepped up this year and will likely be considered a top 4 D by the end of the year. Draisaitl still has a ways to go to be on Nuge's level and overtake him as the #2C on the team, and you can easily pay ~22M for your top 3 centres as long as they're good enough to produce with depth wingers.
McShogun99
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RNH is the second best player on the team and is a huge factor on Mcdavid's development. People love Draisaitl's size but he's not at RNH's level yet. That being said, Trouba is probably the 2nd most valuable player on the Jets and should be their future top pairing defenceman.
Trouba is their second most valuable player? Wha?
He's a good player, and might get better, but he is nowhere near Schiefle(sic), Wheeler, Laine, or Buff in terms of value, and I would probably keep Ehlers over him.
The proposed thread is bad for both teams. Jets need D coming back, and Oilers have no need to trade anybody while they are doing well.
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Exactly this. With Scheifele and Little at #1 and #2 C and the Jets having a ton of forward talent and depth, RNH would be a low priority if the Jets deal Trouba. Trouba is much more valuable to the Jets.
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Klefbom - Larsson
Nurse - Trouba
Sekera - Russell
From worst D in the league to one of the deepest.
I probably wouldn't make this deal, though. RNH plays the hardest minutes out of all the forwards and his absence would put a lot more pressure on McDavid/Draisaitl.
I'll take the 1-2-3 punch of McDavid/RNH/Draisaitl over the core of Klefbom/Larsson/Nurse/Trouba.
Nurse - Trouba
Sekera - Russell
From worst D in the league to one of the deepest.
I probably wouldn't make this deal, though. RNH plays the hardest minutes out of all the forwards and his absence would put a lot more pressure on McDavid/Draisaitl.
I'll take the 1-2-3 punch of McDavid/RNH/Draisaitl over the core of Klefbom/Larsson/Nurse/Trouba.
