Do you really think Jets are so dependent on Trouba? Morrissey is just waiting for an opportunity to jump into the lineup. Here is his chance. Jets fans might soon be asking "Trouba who?".
Proposal: Trouba Mega-Thread Part III
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Do you really think Jets are so dependent on Trouba? Morrissey is just waiting for an opportunity to jump into the lineup. Here is his chance. Jets fans might soon be asking "Trouba who?".
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I am not in any way a Chevy supporter but I support his stance on this one & I'll support him should we miss the playoffs on account of Trouba not wanting to play ball. And I know management and most fans in Wpg will as well. Trouba has never been mistreated (albeit being asked to play with Stu as much as he has been crappy). Nevertheless, he has been groomed quite appropriately, given tons of time, and was scheduled to play a top pairing role this year.
Suddenly, he wants to take his ball & go home. Well good riddens fellow. If it takes a few months or a year to knock a little bit of the spoiled brat entitlement out of you & that slimy agent, so be it.
Chevy's job is safe.
The Jets do have the leverage. Such is the life for an RFA.
What Chevy and his team have done to build their current organization out of what Atlanta had is remarkable. One of the arguably worst prospect pools in the league to one of the inarguably top 5 in the league. Has he done a perfect job? No, but is he in any way on the hot seat in Winnipeg? Absolutely not.
Trouba has simply taken what few rights RFA's have(hence the word "restricted") and effectively eliminated one(the offer sheet). Brilliant move Overhardt.
Trouba has simply taken what few rights RFA's have(hence the word "restricted") and effectively eliminated one(the offer sheet). Brilliant move Overhardt.
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they were the second worst team in the league last year, and jet fans have spent all summer telling everyone how he is their best defenseman, so yes i think they would depend on him alot.
the jets have made the playoffs one time with chevy as gm, anyone thinking he has leverage is fooling themselves, he could well be out of a job if they have another poor season
Exactly I been saying the same thing the past 3 threads. And some people have been in agreement on it. Chevy is against the wall in Trouba simple as that. To say Chevy has the upper hand is just false to the highest degree.
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Also he playing the market in Canada mode. Wild (for example) has massive benefit for being able to pull nearly any 28+ UFA on the market with "on par" contract.
You can't just dial Staal in Winnipeg if your franchise center (Granlund) hits the ceiling at 45point second liner.
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Yep, shows just exactly how much you know. We had a real down year (like 20 points off the previous year) but we were not close to the second worst -- we got second pick through the lottery
The Jets have the leverage. They are already without Trouba.
It's Trouba who stands to lose.
Ya that makes no sense at all, as others in the thread have stated Cheveldayoff and co have done an incredible job turning a **** franchise into one with a great prospect pool and great looking future, all while not having the advantage of having a franchise in a prime location which draws in FA.
In no way is he "against the wall," there's simply nothing he can do about it. Trouba and his ******** agent aren't gonna budge, and Chevy isn't gonna just trade him without it making complete sense for the team. Any ownership group should and would understand that. He's not at fault here.
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When you weren't arguing that Vegas was going to offer sheet Trouba (giving up their first 4 first rounders if needed ) because it made so much sense, ... and that Vegas had so much $$ they could just go & buy all the UFAs they needed .... and on and on
You're wrong pure and simple.
Trouba is out. The Jets don't have him. If he sits they lose nothing.
Trouba will lose though.
And Trouba will be the 1st player to voluntarily give up his career after his ELC. At some point in all stand-offs something gives and this situation will be no different.
So I guess neutral fans who have said the same thing over and over with 3 trade threads about Chevy on the hot seat we are all false. Okay keep Trouba then.
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you're right they were 8 points better than the 2nd worst team, and 3 better than 3rd.
Okay, I'll give you a chance. Convince me. How does Trouba have leverage?
Trouba is an RFA, that intrinsically pulls leverage towards the team, since the player doesn't have access to the open market. But wait, he also all but eliminated the possibility of an offer sheet by asking for a trade. Unless it's in the 4 1st Round Pick territory(it won't be) the Jets will match. Even less leverage.
Trouba has less options and more to lose. He stands to lose a year of NHL salary(at least), stagnate his development by not playing against the best in the world, and if that lowers his value enough to where it isn't worth it to trade him NEXT year. The Jets still control his rights.
Are you sure you know what leverage means?
Imagine for a moment you're Jim Benning.
Okay, but you're at home, you can take off those glasses and that fake mustache. The fans can't get at you in here. It's going to be alright.
You pour yourself a glass of Merlot, and sit back and relax in your armchair. You turn the TV on, and hear Bob McKenzie talk about Jacob Trouba being on the trading block.
Kevin never got back to me... , you think to yourself.
Picking up your antiquated Blackberry, you scroll through your list of contacts until you get to Kevy Chevy, and give him a call.
The person you have called is currently unavailable...
"Kevin, it's Jim. Have you given my proposal any thought? I'll trade you a lightly used Luca Sbisa, Olli Juolevi and a 3rd for Jacob Trouba. But you have to include a prospect, let's say someone with meat and potatoes. How big is this Nic Petan kid you have? Or if you're interested in Alex Edler, I'd be willing to take another look at Kyle Connor. Call me back."
You sink back into your chair with a content smile, confident that the deal will be done, just as soon as Kevin gets your message.
Okay, but you're at home, you can take off those glasses and that fake mustache. The fans can't get at you in here. It's going to be alright.
You pour yourself a glass of Merlot, and sit back and relax in your armchair. You turn the TV on, and hear Bob McKenzie talk about Jacob Trouba being on the trading block.
Kevin never got back to me... , you think to yourself.
Picking up your antiquated Blackberry, you scroll through your list of contacts until you get to Kevy Chevy, and give him a call.
The person you have called is currently unavailable...
"Kevin, it's Jim. Have you given my proposal any thought? I'll trade you a lightly used Luca Sbisa, Olli Juolevi and a 3rd for Jacob Trouba. But you have to include a prospect, let's say someone with meat and potatoes. How big is this Nic Petan kid you have? Or if you're interested in Alex Edler, I'd be willing to take another look at Kyle Connor. Call me back."
You sink back into your chair with a content smile, confident that the deal will be done, just as soon as Kevin gets your message.
The 6th worst team in the league, not the 2nd worst like you stated.
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I don't see the Canes giving up Hanifin for Trouba unless a guy like Connor is also involved, in which the Canes would be adding something significant like a 1st or a high-end prospect (not Aho - think Gauthier, Roy, Saarela).
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I imagine you'll be waiting a longgggggg time for Kevin to get back to you this time as well lol. Nothing wrong with Juol but he's just a prospect; the rest of the package is crap
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and somehow are going to be better without a player many jets fans have said is their best dman. boy if the jets have a bad start and chevy loses his job i bet he'll wish he would have traded him instead of trying to prove a point
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I'd be shocked if 20% of Jets fans think Trouba is better than Buff. Hyperbole much?
It was plausible and an opinion. You sure didn't have to agree to it. Just like I'm disagreeing with you that Chevy has the upper hand.
Your idea that Chevy is in any way on the hot seat in Winnipeg highlights your ignorance almost as much as your knowledge of the standings in the NHL last year. The Jets aren't expected to make playoffs this year.
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