Proposal: Trouba all encompassing trade thread - Part 2

[gwh]

1) Lindholm, Rielly, Murray, Maata- Not happening
2) Gardiner, **Brodin**, Fowler, **Scandella**, DDK, Beaulieu, Klefbom... That's just off the top of my head so I'm sure there's a couple more but the list isn't exactly huge.

Only on 4 mil contract.

Plus Trouba has Dumba in the 3rd pairing that needs minutes. He would play maybe 18-19minutes a game in wild.

(Overhardt and Fletcher also have history...)

 

[4thline]

Only on 4 mil contract.

Plus Trouba has Dumba in the 3rd pairing that needs minutes. He would play maybe 18-19minutes a game in wild.

(Overhardt and Fletcher also have history...)

That's kinda exactly what I was talking about in the body of that paragraph. Even listing every d-man of the right age and quality without taking into account team and contract situation its not a long list. Use those as filters to pare down and the pickings are slim.

 

[4thline]

On my cell I can't look them all up even if I had people in mind. But possible examples:

- Teams looking to shed salary at LHD or someone who can play either side.

- Teams who have a player who through TC prove it's time to move up or make the team who push out an older player.

- Teams with extra depth and can play either side.

- Teams who want to covert a D into expansion exempt assets.

- Teams looking to make a hockey trade fill another hole and want one of our prospects.

Just some examples.

Those are vague hypothetical scenarios, not examples of players that satisfy each of

Legitimate veteran top-4 dman
+
Signed 2 years at a reasonable amount
+
available
+
cheap to acquire.

Satisfying 1, 2, and 3 is hard enough. 4 is flat out unlikely, Unless you're thinking like a Seidenberg or Hunwick "top-4"

 

[Snowman]

Winnipeg has no leverage so they have to lose value somewhere. If the choice is between the quality of the player or the quality of the contract, I think they will pick the quality of the player.

I think you got mixed up and meant to say Winnipeg has ALL the leverage, it's Trouba who has zero leverage.

 

[Leafidelity]

I think you got mixed up and meant to say Winnipeg has ALL the leverage, it's Trouba who has zero leverage.

Winnipeg has no leverage over other teams. Nobody else is going into the season with a hole in their lineup.

 

[cneely]

Winnipeg has no leverage over other teams. Nobody else is going into the season with a hole in their lineup.

Huh?

No other teams have any holes in their lineups?

 

[Royale With Cheese]

I think you got mixed up and meant to say Winnipeg has ALL the leverage, it's Trouba who has zero leverage.

Right???

I don't understand this meme about a restricted free agent having all the leverage. He played his cards - not signing a contract, and a public trade request. There is no other leverage.

 

[gwh]

Those are vague hypothetical scenarios, not examples of players that satisfy each of

Legitimate veteran top-4 dman
+
Signed 2 years at a reasonable amount
+
available
+
cheap to acquire.

Satisfying 1, 2, and 3 is hard enough. 4 is flat out unlikely, Unless you're thinking like a Seidenberg or Hunwick "top-4"

For the other team:

+ space under the cap to pay extra dollars right now.

+ Need for top4 20min a game RHD.

+ Need to rebalance 3 LHDs 1 RHD -> 2+2

+ Most likely not in the central division.

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If you put all of those together, there are not many teams in a league that tick every single box in the list.

Either this takes a long time, or Trouba goes for an older player with larger contract. Think CHI Hammer for Trouba.

 

[gwh]

Scratch that. Hammer gets 4 mil only. Now that s a bargain basement contract right there...

 

[gwh]

Huh?

No other teams have any holes in their lineups?

Leafs have this covered. If your lineup is a vacuum, no holes can exist.

 

[tbcwpg]

Chevy has no leverage IF he feels forced to move Trouba before Dec 1. I don't think he does. There was talk on the radio this morning that if he sits out, the Jets would even protect him in the expansion draft. Sitting out hurts Trouba the most right now.

 

[Brock Radunske]

Can we all just cut the ***** and admit to ourselves that he's going to Detroit?

 

[AINEC*]

The kid clearly wants nothing to do with the city of Winnipeg. Probably cried himself to sleep on draft night.

Gardiner + 3rd round pick.

Get it done, Lou.

 

[allan5oh]

 

[Muffin]

Is Colorado really a fit? I can't see him ahead of Johnson or Barrie on the depth chart on the right side.

 

[larmex99]

The kid clearly wants nothing to do with the city of Winnipeg. Probably cried himself to sleep on draft night.

Gardiner + 3rd round pick.

Get it done, Lou.

You spelled 1st wrong.

 

[Seachd]

You're making fun of a guy on Twitter, who is you, for not knowing what a word means?

 

[Cousin Eddie]

Is Colorado really a fit? I can't see him ahead of Johnson or Barrie on the depth chart on the right side.

The only thing that makes sense for Colorado is EJ for Trouba. this doesn't make sense for Winnipeg though. I don't think there's any chance he ends up in Colorado.

 

[allan5oh]

You're making fun of a guy on Twitter, who is you, for not knowing what a word means?

I'm making fun of others. Especially the "experts" in the media who keep using that word.

 

[Mugzy97]

I think you got mixed up and meant to say Winnipeg has ALL the leverage, it's Trouba who has zero leverage.

You're right but it's also in Winnipeg's best interest to deal him or somebody else than to let a valuable asset sit around and lose value.

You spelled 1st wrong.

LOL if you expect Gards and a 1st.

 

[Mad Brills*]

Gardiner + kapanen.

 

[Gabe Kupari]

Jets are very patient.

2 options actually for Trouba

1. Sit
2. Sign

Jets don't need to trade him. I swear Drouin did something similar last season and people all said let him sit... why is this any different? Cuz trouba doesn't have a contract? Who cares. He's an rfa and the jets don't have to trade him until they get what they want in return. Trouba sits... cool.... means he's an rfa and under jets control even longer. Jets have all the leverage just like Tampa did with Drouin

 

[cneely]

LOL if you expect Gards and a 1st.

A 1st is probably too much, especially from a rebuilding Leaf team, but a third is no where near enough.

Not sure there's a fit. Adds like Nylander, Marner, etc are too much, but there isn't much else in the Leafs cupboard of interest IMO.

 

[Gabe Kupari]

Gardiner + kapanen.

Nope. Doubt Canadian teams are realistic options.

 

[Gabe Kupari]

So far outside of Arizona the teams rumored to be interested are US based eastern teams.

Canadian teams aren't an option here. It's not about Winnipeg... its about Canada and it's about his parents wanting him in a US market