Speculation: Trotz: "If we don't get it going, then I'm going to start our rebuild plan."

SeanMoneyHands

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The Preds lost their 9th game of the season tonight (lead the NHL in losses). How much time does Barry give the team to turn it around with out losing the season?
 

LEAFANFORLIFE23

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It's not like we've seen this play out 100x before where teams try to build a new core via free agency and fail miserably.

We have also seen it work, at least in other sports, the 08 Celtics, the Lebron led heat, the current LA Dodgers.

The LA Rams the year they won a super bowl.

The 2002 wings

The entire franchise history of the Vegas Golden Knights.

It can and does work if It's done right.
 

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If Nashville's hitting the bottom this season and going to go into a rebuild then it starts here with that top pick and you're looking at a 4-8 year turn around. Stamkos and Marchessault's contracts don't really matter in that time frame, Note that they already have two additional 1st round picks this year, an extra 2nd, and should be able to add a little more at the deadline selling Nyquist and maybe Fabbro. If they want to go for that 'big haul' trade there's always the option of pursuing a hockey trade for Josi, Forsberg, and/or Saros.

It really feels like a lot of people don't understand how rebuilds actually work, the moves they made this summer will have minimal impact towards one.
 

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Rebuild after signing those contracts? Thats not how it works, that’s not how any of this works.

More assets to trade.

Stamkos at 50% might get an asset.

But really Nashville would have a lot of enticing assets at the TDL. If they had a firesale, they could stock the cupboards in draft picks.
 

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We have also seen it work, at least in other sports, the 08 Celtics, the Lebron led heat, the current LA Dodgers.

The LA Rams the year they won a super bowl.

The 2002 wings

The entire franchise history of the Vegas Golden Knights.

It can and does work if It's done right.
2002 Wing's core was already set, they just filled 'holes'. Vegas' only actual core FA signing was Pietrangelo, the rest were trades.

The main difference at least for hockey is that they supplemented their core. Nashville's core was Forsberg, Saros, and Josi. Hoping you can fill out the rest of your top 6 with cast offs was never going to work. I didn't expect them to be this bad, but I thought they were 1st round fodder at best.

NBA is on a completely different planet when it comes to team building.
 

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We have also seen it work, at least in other sports, the 08 Celtics, the Lebron led heat, the current LA Dodgers.

The LA Rams the year they won a super bowl.

The 2002 wings

The entire franchise history of the Vegas Golden Knights.

It can and does work if It's done right.

What? The 2002 Red Wings had their full core in place and no cap.
 

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From going all-in to rebuild in the matter of a few months. Lmao.

Yeah, bad planning.

2002 Wing's core was already set, they just filled 'holes'. Vegas' only actual core FA signing was Pietrangelo, the rest were trades.

The main difference at least for hockey is that they supplemented their core. Nashville's core was Forsberg, Saros, and Josi. Hoping you can fill out the rest of your top 6 with cast offs was never going to work. I didn't expect them to be this bad, but I thought they were 1st round fodder at best.

NBA is on a completely different planet when it comes to team building.
The team isn't as bad as their results. Pretty unlucky.
 

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Stamkos, March, skjei, josi and forsberg all have NMC, and good luck getting them to waive from their no tax state team. The only players worth anything would be saros whose NMC kicks in next July and RoR. If Nashville is out at the deadline I’d move both pieces with small retention.
 

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We have also seen it work, at least in other sports, the 08 Celtics, the Lebron led heat, the current LA Dodgers.

The LA Rams the year they won a super bowl.

The 2002 wings

The entire franchise history of the Vegas Golden Knights.

It can and does work if It's done right.
Well, other sports are not relevant in this situation. And it's many more times in hockey that it doesn't work than does (hard to think of any outside of the two you posted). Plus the Red Wings were before the salary cap, and that team was already winning cups. It's more like, players past their prime trying to join a team most likely to win a cup.
 
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