Player Discussion Trent Frederic III

[4ORRBRUIN]

What about......

Marchand - Poitras - Frederic

Get's Frederic back on his off-wing which historically he's been more productive. I like how he carries the puck down the right side, just looks faster, more confident, leans into defenders and drives to the net more with the puck.

Find the proper LW for Lindholm and Coyle and you'd have a pretty strong defensive shut-down line. Doesn't have to be a scorer (that would be nice) just a LW you really trust defensively.

Put Beecher on LW and make that your third line. Bring up Viel waive Koepke

Put Jones in on the fourth line

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

Put Beecher on LW and make that your third line. Bring up Viel waive Koepke

Put Jones in on the fourth line

So, you want to move no hands Beecher up, have Viel & Jones on the 4th line and waive Koepke (+9, best of all Bruins forwards).

May need to give that one some more thought.

 

[Dr Hook]

These power forwards are rarely game impacting anymore, but expect to be paid as such. Frederic for example impacts 5% of games in any manner.

The best ones do, but they are rare as you said (which is why we call them unicorns, right?), and furthermore, they don't last. Tom Wilson is an outlier. Josh Anderson was that guy, then he broke down. Evander Kane I think fit the model, then broke down. Wayne Simmonds broke down etc. etc. It's probably the fastest path to shortening your career.

 

[neelynugs]

As for trade value, he's probably worth a 3rd Rd pick.

i can tell you with great certainty that he's worth more than that. i don't know if the bruins will trade him (people in
the know are saying they continue to try to sign him), but there are numerous teams lining up to acquire the guy.
there's a world where he nets you a 1st round pick, too. depends on how many teams end up bidding.

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

So, you want to move no hands Beecher up, have Viel & Jones on the 4th line and waive Koepke (+9, best of all Bruins forwards).

May need to give that one some more thought.

That what I said.

You want to watch the Koepke's of the world watch more AHL hockey. Or give him Coyle's spot in the line up, hell he's a plus 9 player as you said.

Koepke is just another body wearing a Bruin uniform.

 

[Kalus]

Absolute best return they can hope for, IMO, is a late 2nd (55 to 64 range). If this season went like last season for him, you’d be looking at a late 1st. But this season has certainly been a step back from last.

 

[neelynugs]

Absolute best return they can hope for, IMO, is a late 2nd (55 to 64 range). If this season went like last season for him, you’d be looking at a late 1st. But this season has certainly been a step back from last.

we shall see. if he gets traded, i believe they'll do better than 55-64. cap hit is pretty reasonable too.
heard the oilers are very interested, among many others. if i'm sweeney, i'd even consider retaining half
to bump the return (we have all 3 retention spots, and marchand is probably the only other guy you
look at as far as retention - we probably aren't retaining on guys with term unless someone wants korpisalo).

 

[Dr Hook]

Absolute best return they can hope for, IMO, is a late 2nd (55 to 64 range). If this season went like last season for him, you’d be looking at a late 1st. But this season has certainly been a step back from last.

I don't know- any one interested in Trent would look at the body of work and also see that the Bruins as a whole this season have been a mess. I could certainly see a team believing that he would do better in a different environment with a different role or linemates or whatever. I could see a team forking over a first for him very easily. Now maybe not a top ten pick, but Frederic is as good or better than most guys you could pick in the later first round,

 

[WickedWitch74]

I think the Brett Connelly trade from a few years ago is a good comp.
Two 2nd Rd. picks.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

That what I said.

You want to watch the Koepke's of the world watch more AHL hockey. Or give him Coyle's spot in the line up, hell he's a plus 9 player as you said.

Koepke is just another body wearing a Bruin uniform.

But you want to bring up two AHL players.

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

But you want to bring up two AHL players.

Yes,

 

[Number8]

was hoping that was all set, but again this is the same guy who couldn't be named GM and then prep for the draft five weeks later.


He Poitras and Coyle could develop into one of the better third lines in the league IMO

Stop it. Just stop.

Letterhead to order, business cards to design and order, testing out new desk chairs, artwork in office, recording new telephone messages for missed calls, email sign off templates, 401K decisions, changing wardrobe but not so much that it is seen as a reach, learning where new office is, calling family to tell about new job, seeing if there is a GM chat group/WhatsApp, updating LinkedIn profile........ The list literally goes on and on and on.

Be better.

 

[Dr Hook]

I think the Brett Connelly trade from a few years ago is a good comp.
Two 2nd Rd. picks.

Maybe, but Trent, even with this crappy season, has accomplished far more than Brett Connolly ever had when Boston acquired him.