Player Discussion Trent Frederic II

[CharasLazyWrister]

Just curious - what UFA contracts are tradable on day one?


There's got to be something they really don't like about Vatrano. They let him go for peanuts when it seemed like he was just what they needed and came cheap.

That’s a good point. Most are not, if any. That’s what a 32 team bidding war gets you.

Hardly worth saying, but I think Fred’s contract would very much remain untradable. Especially if this contract year is any indication of what’s to come.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

Bruins tried to get Oliver in the Peeke deal but couldn't convince the Blue Jackets.

Oliver and Vatrano would be my adds this TDL


Vatrano -- Zacha -- Pasta

Marchand -- Lindholm -- Geekie

Frederic -- Coyle -- Brazeau

Beecher -- Kastelic -- Olivier

Are we getting them for free?

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

Just curious - what UFA contracts are tradable on day one?


There's got to be something they really don't like about Vatrano. They let him go for peanuts when it seemed like he was just what they needed and came cheap.

Bruins signed Vatrano as a free agent

They traded him for a third-round pick because Debrusk & Heinen had arrived.

Florida traded him for a 4th round pick.

Anaheim signed him as a free agent.

Peanuts is all anyone has gotten for him.

 

[Tbaybruin]

Why would anyone do that?

I think he has what some high end reams might want for the playoffs. He was pretty good last year. We could easily pay 1/2 his contract

 

[Hookslide]

Bruins tried to get Oliver in the Peeke deal but couldn't convince the Blue Jackets.

Oliver and Vatrano would be my adds this TDL


Vatrano -- Zacha -- Pasta

Marchand -- Lindholm -- Geekie

Frederic -- Coyle -- Brazeau

Beecher -- Kastelic -- Olivier

Who are you giving up to get those two players ? I am curious, because I have no interest in either one of those players.

 

[Hookslide]

I think he has what some high end reams might want for the playoffs. He was pretty good last year. We could easily pay 1/2 his contract

he was good last year, no other year except one has he gone over 40 points, and he might not do that again this year.

 

[PB37]

Are we getting them for free?

yes

 

[Alan Ryan]

Bruins tried to get Oliver in the Peeke deal but couldn't convince the Blue Jackets.

Oliver and Vatrano would be my adds this TDL


Vatrano -- Zacha -- Pasta

Marchand -- Lindholm -- Geekie

Frederic -- Coyle -- Brazeau

Beecher -- Kastelic -- Olivier

Where would Wahlstrom play?

 

[PB37]

Where would Wahlstrom play?

Coming off the bench in that situation

 

[Dr Hook]

Coming off the bench in that situation

Put Frederic on the bench in that situation and it looks good

 

[UncleRico]

All organizations use analytics but you repel away from those. No one is using plus/minus as any serious evaluation metric, for incredibly obvious reasons.

Teams absolutely use plus/minus what are you talking about

 

[Mr. Make-Believe]

Teams absolutely use plus/minus what are you talking about

You see, your problem is you gotta follow the logic:

You do know that every single NHL team has a decent sized analytics department right?

No one is using plus/minus as any serious evaluation metric, for incredibly obvious reasons.

and again, plus/minus IS an analytic