Player Discussion Trent Frederic II

[SonnyBoy]

The mental gymnastics some folks do here makes my head spin. If a guy is ineffective he’s ineffective. Why is that hard to admit for some people?

This isn't Swayman discussion.

 

[BruinDust]

Again you found the right thread.


I'm pulling for both of em - just funny how they're both struggling but one is public enemy #1 the other gets praise for the smallest of things.

You brought Coyle's name up. Ghost I think you called him.

You put so much stock in the hitting stat but for some reason giveaways and takeaways should just be ignored, smallest of things like you said.

What did you think when during the 1st shift in Calgary Frederic turned the puck over on 3 consecutive possessions?

 

[Sheppy]

But his xgf.32 x 48 + ham sandwiches/60 is unreal!

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

But his xgf.32 x 48 + ham sandwiches/60 is unreal!

Especially on Saturdays.

 

[LouJersey]

You brought Coyle's name up. Ghost I think you called him.

You put so much stock in the hitting stat but for some reason giveaways and takeaways should just be ignored, smallest of things like you said.

What did you think when during the 1st shift in Calgary Frederic turned the puck over on 3 consecutive possessions?

9th in goals
10th assts
9th pts
last in +/-
20th in takeaways
10th in give aways
2nd hits
15th blocks

Is that a guy you go 4/18 with? Hope he rebounds maybe? Maybe it's just a 35 game glitch?

But his xgf.32 x 48 + ham sandwiches/60 is unreal!

the Bruins did win the advanced stats 2019 Stanley Cup vs St Louis.

 

[Sheppy]

Especially on Saturdays.

With overcast skies, when it's raining that day, look the f*** out.

 

[Over the volcano]

You brought Coyle's name up. Ghost I think you called him.

You put so much stock in the hitting stat but for some reason giveaways and takeaways should just be ignored, smallest of things like you said.

What did you think when during the 1st shift in Calgary Frederic turned the puck over on 3 consecutive possessions?

I did and he has been.

Hit stat was in response to folks saying he didn't have a physical game.

I didn't see the Calgary game.

I think Frederic gets somewhere around 4x4 on his next deal but it won't here. They need Jones, or Tufte, or Wahlstrom to stick with a physical and responsible game to let him go before the deadline though. I don't see Sweeney weakening the current club for picks.

 

[PlayMakers]

If so I'm surprised it took this long. The stat is readily available on Hockey Reference.

It's not. Earlier in the season I mentioned that Coyle led the league in takeaways among centers. He's still leading the league.

I think it's a very useful stat. Whenever I hear about a player the Bruins might acquire I look up his career average in hits and takeaways. Players who work hard usually do one or the other frequently. It gives me a sense of their 'compete' level.

 

[BruinDust]

It's not. Earlier in the season I mentioned that Coyle led the league in takeaways among centers. He's still leading the league.

I think it's a very useful stat. Whenever I hear about a player the Bruins might acquire I look up his career average in hits and takeaways. Players who work hard usually do one or the other frequently. It gives me a sense of their 'compete' level.

It's a really good stat IMO that I haven't paid much attention to but probably should.

The fact that he's the only forward on the team with a positive differential in giveaways/takeaways is impressive. I know the numbers aren't there this year but from the games I've watched (which this season is most of them), Coyle has still been strong in possession and is good at getting inside/underneath puck carriers and striping them of the puck.

Pasta gets shit on constantly for turnovers but he's that creative high-risk player and gets so many touches of the puck when compared to say a Frederic who doesn't touch the puck anywhere near as much and still has a lot of giveaways, especially compared to his pitiful takeaway numbers for a guy suppose to be a big strong reliable forward.

 

[Absurdity]

Did the waterboy get stuck in Edmonton traffic on the way to the rink last night? The Bruins could have used him.

In all seriousness, I have said this before, but Frederic is way too passive to be playing wing on this team with how the Bruins want their wingers to forecheck. Sweeney wants to re-sign him, but that doesn't seem to have gone anywhere. Adding the fact that Frederic is playing the way he is in a contract year, the Bruins should move him before they lose him for nothing in free agency.